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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #30 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:00pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

cods wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:14am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 6:25am:

they talk sunlight so what happens when there is no sunlight?..winertime some countries see very little sunlight..even in Canberra we have our days..do they still capture the sun heat though it cant be felt or seen?

There are things called batteries you know Wink

And do we ignore sunlight and heat energy during the day just because it is not available 24 hours a day ?? It's not an all or nothing solution.

yeah I have heard of them.... something funny about batteries they always fade at the wrong moment..mine would burn out about 8pm...

however are not batteries a pollutant in their own right? and almost impossible to get rid of.and would we have to have a huge one attached to the roof as well.. just asking as I like to get a mental picture...

rusty are you driving the Great wall yet???

havent seen many

especially those batteries in every fossil fool car on the planet. But that doesn't count does it as long as some shareholder in some oil company profits out of it Wink

and I got a car. don't need another one. cost me enough as it is. I paid $1.58 for PULP the other day Sad

Not cheap are they. Got any ideas of how I can reduce the costs of running my fossil fool vehicle since you libbos are always obsessed by the cost of renewable energy !!

Yep, trade it in on a Hybrid..

nup, in the long term it still keeps you addicted to the rising cost of the fool bowser. Eventually those hybrids will become cost prohibitive Sad

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #31 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:01pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

Longweekend.
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as usual, no technical comment on the virtual impossibility of a 90% conversion of sunlight to energy!

What would you know longweekend?
You're always making negative comments on all Nail's threads.
It's only through Nail that you learn about new technology so
you should be thanking him for telling you.

badweekend would never thank anyone except for his do-nothing paranormal friend jesus

LOL

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #32 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

Longweekend.
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as usual, no technical comment on the virtual impossibility of a 90% conversion of sunlight to energy!

What would you know longweekend?
You're always making negative comments on all Nail's threads.
It's only through Nail that you learn about new technology so
you should be thanking him for telling you.

badweekend would never thank anyone except for his do-nothing paranormal friend jesus

LOL

Yes Nail - the religious nutcase with a false claim to a BSc.

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #33 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

cods wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:14am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 6:25am:

they talk sunlight so what happens when there is no sunlight?..winertime some countries see very little sunlight..even in Canberra we have our days..do they still capture the sun heat though it cant be felt or seen?

There are things called batteries you know Wink

And do we ignore sunlight and heat energy during the day just because it is not available 24 hours a day ?? It's not an all or nothing solution.

yeah I have heard of them.... something funny about batteries they always fade at the wrong moment..mine would burn out about 8pm...

however are not batteries a pollutant in their own right? and almost impossible to get rid of.and would we have to have a huge one attached to the roof as well.. just asking as I like to get a mental picture...

rusty are you driving the Great wall yet???

havent seen many

especially those batteries in every fossil fool car on the planet. But that doesn't count does it as long as some shareholder in some oil company profits out of it Wink

and I got a car. don't need another one. cost me enough as it is. I paid $1.58 for PULP the other day Sad

Not cheap are they. Got any ideas of how I can reduce the costs of running my fossil fool vehicle since you libbos are always obsessed by the cost of renewable energy !!

Yep, trade it in on a Hybrid..

nup, in the long term it still keeps you addicted to the rising cost of the fool bowser. Eventually those hybrids will become cost prohibitive Sad

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #34 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #35 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:11pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

So lease one......Being Australia largest electric self adjusting widget exporter, you should be able to qualify for a company car..

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #36 - May 20^th, 2011 at 4:24pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

So lease one......Being Australia largest electric self adjusting widget exporter, you should be able to qualify for a company car..

you are an idiot. you want me to spend more money just to save less on the cost of fossil fool !!

why don't you just admit that you have no solutions for the rising cost of fossil fool as long as people are addicted to the fool bowser !!

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #37 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:13pm

What seems to be avoided by the media and power industry, is, wave power.
Having been on ships without stabilisers, I have seen the front of the ship go up ten meters and then drop again, enormous amount of energy, which was never used.
If the wave and tidal power were utilised to pump water into a storage facility while there is excess of capacity, this stored water energy could then be used for peak generation of power.
I,am no engineer, but even standing on the beach when the tide is coming in or going out, one can feel the energy under the feet.
Just an opinion of mine.

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #38 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:34pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

Longweekend.
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as usual, no technical comment on the virtual impossibility of a 90% conversion of sunlight to energy!

What would you know longweekend?
You're always making negative comments on all Nail's threads.
It's only through Nail that you learn about new technology so
you should be thanking him for telling you.

well you claim higher education so you easily se the flaw in the claim. a 90% efficiency means it is ABSORBING 90% or heat and light and convertin it to electricity. That would mean it is virtually nonreflective and remains cool inthe summer sun. care to tell us about ANY material that has those properties nevermind able to generate power from it?

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #39 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:37pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:24pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

So lease one......Being Australia largest electric self adjusting widget exporter, you should be able to qualify for a company car..

you are an idiot. you want me to spend more money just to save less on the cost of fossil fool !!

why don't you just admit that you have no solutions for the rising cost of fossil fool as long as people are addicted to the fool bowser !!

I admitted that years ago nails....

Why do you always come up with stupid excuses to avoid doing the 'obvious'????

A self employed plumber can structure his business and tax system to write all expenses for a work truck off......And even buy/lease a new one every year or 2 years......

But you would rather keep your 'luxury' (fuel guzzler) car, than sell/trade it for a hybrid 'work' vehicle..or even do what lots of ordinary people have done and IMPORT an EV from overseas...

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #40 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:48pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:24pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

So lease one......Being Australia largest electric self adjusting widget exporter, you should be able to qualify for a company car..

you are an idiot. you want me to spend more money just to save less on the cost of fossil fool !!

why don't you just admit that you have no solutions for the rising cost of fossil fool as long as people are addicted to the fool bowser !!

I admitted that years ago nails....

Why do you always come up with stupid excuses to avoid doing the 'obvious'????

A self employed plumber can structure his business and tax system to write all expenses for a work truck off......And even buy/lease a new one every year or 2 years......

But you would rather keep your 'luxury' (fuel guzzler) car, than sell/trade it for a hybrid 'work' vehicle..or even do what lots of ordinary people have done and IMPORT an EV from overseas...

its always the same with split-nail. whinging and whining and complaining and blaming everyone else for things. Yes, we'd all like to have cheaper fuel but the reality is that aint gonna happen and petrol has actually gone up by less that the CPI over the past 20 years which is more than some products can say. until there is a viable alterative - and there isnt - its just meaningless drivel from him.

And you are right. He could get and EV if he is so enamoured with them. But a centre-link income makes that hard I guess.

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #41 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:49pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:00pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

cods wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:14am:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

cods wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 6:25am:

they talk sunlight so what happens when there is no sunlight?..winertime some countries see very little sunlight..even in Canberra we have our days..do they still capture the sun heat though it cant be felt or seen?

There are things called batteries you know Wink

And do we ignore sunlight and heat energy during the day just because it is not available 24 hours a day ?? It's not an all or nothing solution.

yeah I have heard of them.... something funny about batteries they always fade at the wrong moment..mine would burn out about 8pm...

however are not batteries a pollutant in their own right? and almost impossible to get rid of.and would we have to have a huge one attached to the roof as well.. just asking as I like to get a mental picture...

rusty are you driving the Great wall yet???

havent seen many

especially those batteries in every fossil fool car on the planet. But that doesn't count does it as long as some shareholder in some oil company profits out of it Wink

and I got a car. don't need another one. cost me enough as it is. I paid $1.58 for PULP the other day Sad

Not cheap are they. Got any ideas of how I can reduce the costs of running my fossil fool vehicle since you libbos are always obsessed by the cost of renewable energy !!

Yep, trade it in on a Hybrid..

nup, in the long term it still keeps you addicted to the rising cost of the fool bowser. Eventually those hybrids will become cost prohibitive Sad

everything is 'cost prohibitive' to you and there is the cruz of your problem. NOTHING is affordable to you. you couldnt afford a car even if needed no fuel.

idiot.

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #42 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:50pm

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:58pm:

Longweekend.
Quote:

as usual, no technical comment on the virtual impossibility of a 90% conversion of sunlight to energy!

What would you know longweekend?
You're always making negative comments on all Nail's threads.
It's only through Nail that you learn about new technology so
you should be thanking him for telling you.

badweekend would never thank anyone except for his do-nothing paranormal friend jesus

LOL

Yes Nail - the religious nutcase with a false claim to a BSc.

I see you are unable to come up with an answer to my TECHNICAL query regarding this supposed PV cells. I guess your masters degree in lawn mowing didnt cover that!

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #43 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:51pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

But in the short term, it'll reduce your fuel usage and your running costs until the middle of next year when the Nissan Leaf hits the Aus car yards..

what a dumb suggestion. you fork out 35K for another car with a bit better fool economy just for a bit of savings on 1 years worth of fossil fool Sad

maybe if they had of built a plugin hybrid in the first place then there would be no argument would there ??

So lease one......Being Australia largest electric self adjusting widget exporter, you should be able to qualify for a company car..

more likely he sells 'self-sealing stem bolts'. he sources his technological information from the same place.

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Re: Breakthrough Solar sheet captures 90 % of sunlight
Reply #44 - May 20^th, 2011 at 5:55pm

hawil wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:13pm:

What seems to be avoided by the media and power industry, is, wave power.
Having been on ships without stabilisers, I have seen the front of the ship go up ten meters and then drop again, enormous amount of energy, which was never used.
If the wave and tidal power were utilised to pump water into a storage facility while there is excess of capacity, this stored water energy could then be used for peak generation of power.
I,am no engineer, but even standing on the beach when the tide is coming in or going out, one can feel the energy under the feet.
Just an opinion of mine.

Wave energy has always had its costs and maintenance problems. Carnegie Pty Ltd has just started a trial on a new wave generator that lets wave power pump water in and out of a land-based turbine. That will probably eliminate the biggest problem which was having turbines out at sea and the expensive of power cabling and corrosion. this system would have most of the sea components made out of non-corrosive materials. if it works well wave might finally become a significant producer of electricty. Up until now it was way too expensive and had very high maintenance costs.

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