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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #105 - May 20^th, 2011 at 8:30pm

mozzaok wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

The point that Brown was destroyed, is a little extreme.
The fact that he was shown up as just another disingenuous politician, by refusing to admit to his role in forcing the introduction of the Carbon Tax, was what was the most damaging aspect of his performance, in my view..

Interesting point. In your view, how did BBrown force the government into introducing a carbon tax?

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #106 - May 20^th, 2011 at 8:33pm

Maeve wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

It was because Brown did NOT have an answer to the questions once Uhlman pointed out that it was not a journalist from the Australian who was quoted, but Bob Brown himself writing about the closing down of the coal industry. It seems the Get Up mob can't seem to get their heads around valid questions. A case of dishing it out, but not able to take it.

Can you please quote, at some length, BBrown on his belief that the coal industry should be shut down?

The way i see it, its not as simple as that.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #107 - May 21^st, 2011 at 11:58am

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

mozzaok wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

The point that Brown was destroyed, is a little extreme.
The fact that he was shown up as just another disingenuous politician, by refusing to admit to his role in forcing the introduction of the Carbon Tax, was what was the most damaging aspect of his performance, in my view..

Interesting point. In your view, how did BBrown force the government into introducing a carbon tax?

pretty easy. the govt needs EVERY VOTE and the greens have one. plus Greens have balance of power shortly. was that too hard for you to understand?

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #108 - May 21^st, 2011 at 11:58am

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

Maeve wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

It was because Brown did NOT have an answer to the questions once Uhlman pointed out that it was not a journalist from the Australian who was quoted, but Bob Brown himself writing about the closing down of the coal industry. It seems the Get Up mob can't seem to get their heads around valid questions. A case of dishing it out, but not able to take it.

Can you please quote, at some length, BBrown on his belief that the coal industry should be shut down?

The way i see it, its not as simple as that.

the way you see it is delusional. the Greens have as par of their policy platform the total elimination of the coal industry.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #109 - May 21^st, 2011 at 2:39pm

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

Maeve wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

It was because Brown did NOT have an answer to the questions once Uhlman pointed out that it was not a journalist from the Australian who was quoted, but Bob Brown himself writing about the closing down of the coal industry. It seems the Get Up mob can't seem to get their heads around valid questions. A case of dishing it out, but not able to take it.

Can you please quote, at some length, BBrown on his belief that the coal industry should be shut down?

The way i see it, its not as simple as that.

Greens policy

Mining and Mineral Exploration

35.oppose the establishment of new coal mines and the expansion of existing mines

That = dead coal mines.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #111 - May 21^st, 2011 at 7:52pm

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"...Commentators on the OzPolitics blog disagreed, saying: "Bob Brown (was) destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on 7.30."..."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/petition-hits-abc-for-shift-to-right/story-e6frg996-1226059241013

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via jame-e; Another distortion Flyin_B. Along with your hollow quotes from the interview.

Given that your only focus is on attacking the man, can you explain why?

"...Another distortion Flyin_B..." .. Huh

..errr, jame-e. The quote i provided is directly from the newspaper - how did i distort it ?

"Given that your only focus is on attacking the man, can you explain why?" Hmmm, tell me more jame-e, why do you think my "only focus" is "attacking the man" ..... Huh

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #112 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 11:58am:

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:30pm:

mozzaok wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

The point that Brown was destroyed, is a little extreme.
The fact that he was shown up as just another disingenuous politician, by refusing to admit to his role in forcing the introduction of the Carbon Tax, was what was the most damaging aspect of his performance, in my view..

Interesting point. In your view, how did BBrown force the government into introducing a carbon tax?

pretty easy. the govt needs EVERY VOTE and the greens have one. plus Greens have balance of power shortly. was that too hard for you to understand?

About as hard as my understanding of the last election.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #113 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 11:58am:

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

Maeve wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

It was because Brown did NOT have an answer to the questions once Uhlman pointed out that it was not a journalist from the Australian who was quoted, but Bob Brown himself writing about the closing down of the coal industry. It seems the Get Up mob can't seem to get their heads around valid questions. A case of dishing it out, but not able to take it.

Can you please quote, at some length, BBrown on his belief that the coal industry should be shut down?

The way i see it, its not as simple as that.

the way you see it is delusional. the Greens have as par of their policy platform the total elimination of the coal industry.

OK. Again, its not as simple as that.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #114 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:31pm

progressiveslol wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 2:39pm:

jame-e wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

Maeve wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

It was because Brown did NOT have an answer to the questions once Uhlman pointed out that it was not a journalist from the Australian who was quoted, but Bob Brown himself writing about the closing down of the coal industry. It seems the Get Up mob can't seem to get their heads around valid questions. A case of dishing it out, but not able to take it.

Can you please quote, at some length, BBrown on his belief that the coal industry should be shut down?

The way i see it, its not as simple as that.

Greens policy

Mining and Mineral Exploration

35.oppose the establishment of new coal mines and the expansion of existing mines

That = dead coal mines.

There are plenty of dead coal mines. If by dead you mean exhausted/unprofitable.

The greens are aiming to remove the need for coal mines.

Making them unprofitable.

Economics.

I do not necessarily agree with green policy in this area, but for someone to misunderstand/misrepresent it so profoundly is laughable.

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #115 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:38pm

Flying Binghi wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 7:52pm:

"...Another distortion Flyin_B..." .. Huh

..errr, jame-e. The quote i provided is directly from the newspaper - how did i distort it ?

You didn't. But the quote would indicate that ozpol thinks that BB was destroyed. A distortion.

Flying Binghi wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 7:52pm:

"Given that your only focus is on attacking the man, can you explain why?" Hmmm, tell me more jame-e, why do you think my "only focus" is "attacking the man" ..... Huh

You have not critiqued greens policy in any substantial way.

You agree that BB was not destroyed.

Why have you posted?

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #116 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:58pm

Anyone who has any doubts about the impacts of human beings on our dynamic planet's natural systems, should spend just a few minutes on Google Maps (or Google Earth)...

Start here: http://maps.google.com.au/maps - then zoom in a few times, around major population centres and regional, rural and outback places alike...

Once you've had a broad overview of each of these areas, zoom further and further in - to the point where the patterns of man-made geometry dominate over the natural topography...

One thing that you will notice, is that most of the native East Coast vegetation has been decimated but that there are still pockets of dense forest - albeit juxtaposed to monocultures, housing developments, industrial precincts and quarries...

Start at Queensland, move through NSW and then focus for a while on Victoria and SA - especially those areas which are at the tail-end of the now-toxic Murray Darling system...

Then move over to WA and back up to the NT...

Be sure to dwell on the scars on the landscape over the 100 to 200-odd km radius around where you currently live...

This incredible amount of damage has been done in less than 250 years by a measly population which has not long risen above 20 million...

Now imagine that repeated across the globe - especially in the more densely-populated so-called 'Western World' - but also in those other places which have become the defacto quarries, foodbowls and factories that provide so much to material 'junk' to support the obscene lifestyles of the individualistic peoples who wantonly consume 20-30 times their fair share of the world's resources...at the enormous expense of current and future generations...

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #117 - May 21^st, 2011 at 9:59pm

jame-e wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 9:38pm:

Flying Binghi wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 7:52pm:

"...Another distortion Flyin_B..." .. Huh

..errr, jame-e. The quote i provided is directly from the newspaper - how did i distort it ?

You didn't. But the quote would indicate that ozpol thinks that BB was destroyed. A distortion.

Flying Binghi wrote on May 21^st, 2011 at 7:52pm:

"Given that your only focus is on attacking the man, can you explain why?" Hmmm, tell me more jame-e, why do you think my "only focus" is "attacking the man" ..... Huh

You have not critiqued greens policy in any substantial way.

You agree that BB was not destroyed.

Why have you posted?

=full marks! Wink

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Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30
Reply #118 - May 21^st, 2011 at 10:00pm

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"...Commentators on the OzPolitics blog disagreed, saying: "Bob Brown (was) destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on 7.30."..."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/petition-hits-abc-for-shift-to-right/story-e6frg996-1226059241013

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via jame-e; You didn't. But the quote would indicate that ozpol thinks that BB was destroyed. A distortion.

errr,... jame-e, the quote says "Commentators on". I suggest you re-read to gain an understanding..

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via jame-e; You have not critiqued greens policy in any substantial way.

jame-e, is this thread about greens policy ? .. Huh

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via jame-e; You agree that BB was not destroyed.

Why have you posted?

Yes, why have you posted jame-e.. Wink

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Flying Binghi Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 252 Australia Gender:	Re: Bob Brown destroyed by Chris Uhlmann on ABC's 7.30 Reply #119 - May 21^st, 2011 at 10:07pm . Quote: via Equitist; Anyone who has any doubts about the impacts of human beings on our dynamic planet's natural systems, should.... Equitist, you would probably like another forum i hang out at - http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/ .
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