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Pensioner Costs Rising Faster Than CPI.
May 17^th, 2011 at 8:24am

Pensioners are forking out more and more for food, health and transport, and statistics show that these are rising faster than inflation. Sad

The pensioner and beneficiary living cost index (PBLCI) rose by 1.9 per cent in the March quarter, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) - that's 0.3 per cent higher than the consumer price index (CPI).

The biggest jumps were in health costs (up by 6.7 per cent), education (5.5 per cent), transport (3.6 per cent) and food (3.3 per cent).

Only clothing and household contents and services were a bit cheaper, going down by 1.1 per cent and 1.3 per cent respectively.

The quarterly figures were part of a bigger trend, with the PBLCI rising by 4.6 per cent in the 12 months prior to March 31, much higher than the CPI's 3.3 per cent.

National Seniors CEO Michael O'Neill said all governments needed to work together to make life easier for pensioners.

"These commodity items are clearly necessities - not something that older Australians can cut back on," Mr O'Neill said in a statement on Monday.

"Today's ABS figures confirm the pressure pensioners and older Australians on fixed incomes are feeling at the moment, and it's not going to get any easier." Sad

Mr O'Neill referred to a 2009 study which showed that one in every 10 Australians aged 55 and over had to sell belongings or take out a loan to cope with rising living expenses. Sad

With electricity prices on the rise, more people will be forced to chew into their savings and make difficult choices about what they can and can't afford, Mr O'Neill said. Sad

He urged governments to provide some quick relief.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Pensioner Costs Rising Faster Than CPI. Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2011 at 8:55am Im waiting for you to blame the Libs for this.
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Wattle Grove Ex Member	Re: Pensioner Costs Rising Faster Than CPI. Reply #3 - May 17^th, 2011 at 9:14am If Howard didn't change the pension rises from the Average Weeky Wage to the CPI penisoners would be over $100 p/f better off. So yeah I will blame Howard. The average weeky wage rises worked good enough for 25 years since Whitlam brought it in, so way did Howard change it.
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Reply #4 - May 17^th, 2011 at 11:12am

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If Howard didn't change the pension rises from the Average Weeky Wage to the CPI penisoners would be over $100 p/f better off.

So yeah I will blame Howard.

The average weeky wage rises worked good enough for 25 years since Whitlam brought it in, so way did Howard change it.

Because it was much easier to deny pensioners and the
unemployed a fair and decent payment rate on CPI indexation
rather than on AWW indexation.

No other reason.

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Reply #5 - May 17^th, 2011 at 11:27am

Kat wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 11:12am:

Quote:

If Howard didn't change the pension rises from the Average Weeky Wage to the CPI penisoners would be over $100 p/f better off.

So yeah I will blame Howard.

The average weeky wage rises worked good enough for 25 years since Whitlam brought it in, so way did Howard change it.

Because it was much easier to deny pensioners and the
unemployed a fair and decent payment rate on CPI indexation
rather than on AWW indexation.

No other reason.

I have put this on heaps of threads but all the liberals won't come on and defend what Howard done, that is how weak the liberals on here are ,they don't like the truth throwing up to them.

They must think if they don't answer a thread it must of not happen.

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Reply #7 - May 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am

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Kat wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 11:12am:

Quote:

If Howard didn't change the pension rises from the Average Weeky Wage to the CPI penisoners would be over $100 p/f better off.

So yeah I will blame Howard.

The average weeky wage rises worked good enough for 25 years since Whitlam brought it in, so way did Howard change it.

Because it was much easier to deny pensioners and the
unemployed a fair and decent payment rate on CPI indexation
rather than on AWW indexation.

No other reason.

I have put this on heaps of threads but all the liberals won't come on and defend what Howard done, that is how weak the liberals on here are ,they don't like the truth throwing up to them.

They must think if they don't answer a thread it must of not happen.

I would like to see a link to that wattle..

as the only thing I remember that Howard did was pensioners bonus'.. however I am sure nothing was done for the unemployed..tell me Kat do the unemployed get benefits from medical or are they expected to pay full price?..

never collected unemployment so its all a mystery to me.. its all very well complaining about what govts DONT do however they do do something sometimes...it always remains to be seen if it works..

how many unemployed are homeless for instance.. if most live at home then they are not doing so badly.. how many are prepared to do just about anything ???. if your an accountant its tricky I know but you should still be prepared to work outside the box.. and if that means checkout chick so be it. its a job..someone has to do it.

we are developing a welfare state of mind,we are also being very choosy about where and what we do..if the govts dares suggest you travel or god forbid move.. some have apoplexy.

a friend of mine is an engineer.. a young lady to boot and she has travelled all over the country getting different jobs....she wants to go further she has to move.. jobs dont come to you you know?

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Reply #8 - May 17^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

cods wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

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Kat wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 11:12am:

Quote:

If Howard didn't change the pension rises from the Average Weeky Wage to the CPI penisoners would be over $100 p/f better off.

So yeah I will blame Howard.

The average weeky wage rises worked good enough for 25 years since Whitlam brought it in, so way did Howard change it.

Because it was much easier to deny pensioners and the
unemployed a fair and decent payment rate on CPI indexation
rather than on AWW indexation.

No other reason.

I have put this on heaps of threads but all the liberals won't come on and defend what Howard done, that is how weak the liberals on here are ,they don't like the truth throwing up to them.

They must think if they don't answer a thread it must of not happen.

I would like to see a link to that wattle..

as the only thing I remember that Howard did was pensioners bonus'.. however I am sure nothing was done for the unemployed..tell me Kat do the unemployed get benefits from medical or are they expected to pay full price?..

never collected unemployment so its all a mystery to me.. its all very well complaining about what govts DONT do however they do do something sometimes...it always remains to be seen if it works..

how many unemployed are homeless for instance.. if most live at home then they are not doing so badly.. how many are prepared to do just about anything ???. if your an accountant its tricky I know but you should still be prepared to work outside the box.. and if that means checkout chick so be it. its a job..someone has to do it.

we are developing a welfare state of mind,we are also being very choosy about where and what we do..if the govts dares suggest you travel or god forbid move.. some have apoplexy.

a friend of mine is an engineer.. a young lady to boot and she has travelled all over the country getting different jobs....she wants to go further she has to move.. jobs dont come to you you know?

I'm unaware of the current deal, but it used to be that you got
BASIC medical, eye exams and a few fripperies, and some, but
by no means all, of the PBS benefits. Much is charged at full price.
There are no reductions in consultation fees etc, and, with few
doctors bulk-billing these days, a simple visit to the doctor can
mean the difference between eating or not eating for up to a
week, depending on other commitments.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pensioner Costs Rising Faster Than CPI. Reply #10 - May 19^th, 2011 at 6:27am I have put this on heaps of threads but all the liberals won't come on and defend what Howard done, that is how weak the liberals on here are ,they don't like the truth throwing up to them. They must think if they don't answer a thread it must of not happen. I would like to see a link to that wattle
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pensioner Costs Rising Faster Than CPI. Reply #11 - May 19^th, 2011 at 6:29am Astroboy wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 12:58pm: Nice that they decided to give POW's an extra $500 per fortnight...after they are all but gone! Lest We Forget. yes sounds a good one...when they say extra... what sort of pension have the been getting.??
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Reply #12 - May 20^th, 2011 at 1:25pm

The way Governments and centrelink treat the Pensioners is a disgrace and inhumane, they have no shame. The people of Australia demand pension parity with the minimum wage, while the unemployed require incentive to get back into work...keeping Pensions so low for people who have no options is cruel and unusual punishment. Sad

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Reply #14 - May 20^th, 2011 at 7:10pm

Prevailing wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 1:25pm:

The way Governments and centrelink treat the Pensioners is a disgrace and inhumane, they have no shame. The people of Australia demand pension parity with the minimum wage, while the unemployed require incentive to get back into work...keeping Pensions so low for people who have no options is cruel and unusual punishment. Sad

Centrelink do not decide the pension rate thresholds. Govt. does that.

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