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May 7th, 2011 at 6:33pm
 
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Labor 'follows Howard's footsteps'

THE chairman of the Gillard government's Refugee Resettlement Advisory Committee, Bruce Baird, has accused the government of blindly following the opposition by reverting to the Pacific Solution and backing down on its promise to provide a more compassionate asylum-seeker policy.


And refugee and church groups condemned the government's plan for a detention centre in Papua New Guinea as an "appalling backflip" that would tarnish Australia's international image.

Mr Baird, a Howard government MP who fought against the Coalition's hardline policies, was appointed to head the group that advises the government on how recent arrivals in Australia are settling in to the community.

Mr Baird told The Weekend Australian that Labor's policies on asylum-seekers had now merged with those of the Coalition.


He said he was astonished the government had replicated the Howard government's approach with the Pacific Solution.

The reopening of a detention centre on PNG's Manus Island was an appalling policy decision, Mr Baird said. "We would be far better to have people who arrive in this country (by boat) processed in the same way as people who arrive as unauthorised arrivals by air who are claiming refugee status," he said.

"That's what most countries do around the world - we are the most punitive."

Labor was "meant to be more compassionate on this issue", he said.  Grin Grin

"They've been doing more of community detention, which is a plus, but for the rest it looks pretty similar. We've almost got temporary protection visas in terms of people who have been involved in violence at the camps.

"The whole thing is disappointing and shows a lack of compassion and doing policy on the basis of responding to pressure from the opposition and the quick political fix, rather than educating the community this is part of our international obligation to treat people appropriately - it doesn't mean you'll have an armada of boats descend on the country."



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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-follows-howards-footsteps/story-fn59niix-1226051435965

WELL I GUESS THE LEFT SHOULD BE UP IN ARMS IN ANGER THAT JULIA GILLIARD AND THE ALP HAVE ABANDONED THE EXTREME LEFTS VIEW OF COMPASSION WITHOUT STRINGS ATTACHED TO THE QUEUE JUMPERS,  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #1 - May 7th, 2011 at 6:36pm
 
Labor is a pathetic disgrace Angry
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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2011 at 6:44pm
 
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Is that so ?? OF COURSE I KNEW THAT FROM THE VERY START,  Grin Grin Grin

Well Labor is doing something that they havent done in a long time, and of course its all about JuLIAR Gilliard trying to neutralise an issue that is HURTING LABOR and to do that, she has decided TO LISTEN AND TAKE ACTION TO WHAT THE MAJORITY WANTS FOR ONCE.
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Reply #3 - May 7th, 2011 at 6:52pm
 
"Compassion with strings attached" - the fascists mantra. Cool
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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2011 at 6:54pm
 
John Howard took many hits and knocks from these bleeding heart do gooding silly extreme LETS BE COMPASSIONATE TO ILLEGALS AND QUEUE JUMPERS NO MATTER WHAT brigade of the LEFT.


Will they be just as HARD on JuLIAR Gilliard as well. ?????


Hmmmmmmmm.
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Reply #5 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:07pm
 
Will the de facto Prime Minister Bob brown sign off on this ??? OR WILL HE BACK OFF FROM IDEOLOGY AND ALLOW LABOR TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS ????

Im sure his worried about the polls against Labor and favouring the opposition.

VERY INTERESTING.
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:17pm
 
He doesn't have to. Nothing has to go through either house AFAIK.
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Reply #7 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:24pm
 
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He doesn't have to. Nothing has to go through either house AFAIK


True, but JuLIAR Gilliard did sign a deal for an alliance with the Greens and one of them was the BOAT PEOPLE issue, and Bob Brown favours the extreme left and refugee advocates view to make it official policy for the Labor/Greens alliance amongst all the other Green desires and wishes that JuLIAR Gilliard agreed too.

So where does this leave Bob Brown with this Labor hypocrisy which is against his POSITION. ??????
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Reply #8 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:25pm
 
Heck fascists dont have compassion for anyone else but themselves - they die at the thought of anyone but themselves getting as fair go in the world.  If they are not kicking refugees, they are out beating up homeless people, spitting at bag ladies, whining about single mothers and pensioners.  Its a very limited self serving compassion the fascists have, not a universal one - the world is only big enough for them and "the right kind of people". 

Fascism
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Phil Ochs: What are you fighting for?
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I aint empowering fascists with my cooperation no more.... Wink
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Reply #9 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:27pm
 
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Good, go and run to a cave and live there,  Grin Grin
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Reply #10 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:32pm
 
stryder wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 7:07pm:
Will the de facto Prime Minister Bob brown sign off on this ??? OR WILL HE BACK OFF FROM IDEOLOGY AND ALLOW LABOR TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS ????

Im sure his worried about the polls against Labor and favouring the opposition.

VERY INTERESTING.





what amazes me most is these critics never come up with an answer, a fair answer, do they?... what do they mean by compassionate??? what does it mean in real terms?.. spell it out... what do they expect thegovt.. meaning us, to do exactly.. how much is enough for instance?

I mean what is it now over 6000 in 3 years...so do we find them all homes find them all jobs.see that they have free english classes??

spell it all out for us.. please..

you see I have a family member who has a house to rent down the coast and they have been asked [ by imigration] to take a refugee family of Iraqi as a tenant. they came here 3 weeks ago by the right way,,they have two sons..

now the govt is going to pay their bond and their rent..the parents are on job search..boys on Oz study.. they have a lot of help from a family member and the Refugee group. the house is empty so will need furnishing, all with our help I am sure..

now this is just one family..



now when do we call a halt to all this..we appear to be a rich country... I suggest we appear to have a decent credit rating..thats all.

when we have to call for  a levy to fund a crisis in Qld one has to wonder...

yet we seem to have a veritable horn of plenty when it comes to refugee/asylum seekers

and these critics seem to me to be saying lets open the doors to the floods.. and let the tax payer end up carrying the load.

who cares if it breaks our backs?..
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Reply #11 - May 7th, 2011 at 7:39pm
 
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what amazes me most is these critics never come up with an answer, a fair answer, do they?... what do they mean by compassionate??? what does it mean in real terms?.. spell it out... what do they expect thegovt.. meaning us, to do exactly.. how much is enough for instance?



I know what your saying, Cods

But the fact is JuLIAR Gilliard is IMITATING JOHN HOWARD.

AND JOHN HOWARD IS HATED VERY MUCH BY THE LEFT.

And for JuLIAR Gilliard to do that IS A REAL KICK TO THE LEFTARDS,  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #12 - May 7th, 2011 at 8:07pm
 
Its called HYPOCRISY and the left are full of it

The Laborites are more concerned about "their side" winning a vote

And this "winning a vote" attitude has costs money through higher debts and Australian lives through the Pink Batts debacle

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Reply #13 - May 7th, 2011 at 8:10pm
 
stryder wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 7:27pm:
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I aint empowering fascists with my cooperation no more....  


Good, go and run to a cave and live there,  Grin Grin


Naw - we are organizing, uniting, breeding and planning the downfall of the fascists - we haven't got time to hide in caves - to much to do fighting fascists.  So many fascists so little time... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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cods wrote on May 7th, 2011 at 7:32pm:
you see I have a family member who has a house to rent down the coast and they have been asked [ by imigration] to take a refugee family of Iraqi as a tenant. they came here 3 weeks ago by the right way,,they have two sons..

now the govt is going to pay their bond and their rent..the parents are on job search..boys on Oz study.. they have a lot of help from a family member and the Refugee group. the house is empty so will need furnishing, all with our help I am sure..


Sounds like a win-win situation.

Your family member has a tenant (possibly long-term) guaranteed not to default on rent.

Your community has four more people to sell to therefore, good for the local economy and potentially two new employees ready to go dependent on skill-set required for a given job therefore, good for local businesses struggling to find employees.

Once the father and mother find a job the government has new tax payers which is good for the budget.

Once the kids are educated and get a job the government has yet another couple of taxpayers and will also recover the Austudy paid out.

So all up, just from that one family that has a chance at a new life we potentially have four more tax payers and consumers to help pay for current pensions.




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