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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #120 - Jun 28^th, 2011 at 10:47pm

muso wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 7:39pm:

I was having some nice chilli crab at Boat Quay, Singapore last night when a fortune teller approached. I bet she wished she didn't.

Tell my future? You don't even know my past! When was I last in Singapore - exact date - see - you don't know.

You can't tell the future and you know that perfectly well. Why don't you just get some flowers and sell those to diners instead? At least it's an honest job.

OK - make it $10.

You owe me $10 for good career advice........

Hey Muso, good to have you back here.

Don't forget Thatcher was told by a Gypsy, before she ascended to the pinnacle of British politics, when she was no one, that her legacy would rival that of Churchill's.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #121 - Jun 29^th, 2011 at 8:26pm Thanks. It's Wednesday, so this must be Australia again. Good to be home. I think it will take a while for my brain to catch up again. I think it's still flying over the Timor Sea somewhere.
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #122 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:56am

Sappho wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 7:18am:

Probably not. But that doesn't mean that the AFA should demean atheism by using laws against religion discrimination to get what they want.

There are so many better ways of addressing their right to display billboards without having to admit itself a religion and claim discrimination for religious reasons.

It's wrong!

Why not? Should hypocrisy be the sole quality of religious freaks? Don't you like seeing hypocrisy as we sure as hell see more than enough of it from the Christian brigade. Liars to their bootstraps.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #123 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 4:37pm

boogieman wrote on Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Why not? Should hypocrisy be the sole quality of religious freaks? Don't you like seeing hypocrisy as we sure as hell see more than enough of it from the Christian brigade. Liars to their bootstraps.

You see, that's the crux of the matter. Not all Christians are hypocrites, and not all Atheists are anti-Christian.

People like to make broad brush statements about both, when in fact they are talking about a small proportion in each case.

A large number of everyday Christians would have as many objections about the froth at the mouth looney type evangelicals as a typical atheist would.

As a theistic atheist Tongue

, I don't think it accomplishes anything to be divisive.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #124 - Jun 30^th, 2011 at 9:35pm It's a strawman argument.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #125 - Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 2:47am freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2011 at 9:35pm: It's a strawman argument. I agree somewhat, in that it's a strawman argument devised by those in need of both a strawman to fight, and another to be ruler. It's a Strawmen argument.
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #126 - Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 1:44pm

boogieman wrote on Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Sappho wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 7:18am:

Probably not. But that doesn't mean that the AFA should demean atheism by using laws against religion discrimination to get what they want.

There are so many better ways of addressing their right to display billboards without having to admit itself a religion and claim discrimination for religious reasons.

It's wrong!

Why not? Should hypocrisy be the sole quality of religious freaks? Don't you like seeing hypocrisy as we sure as hell see more than enough of it from the Christian brigade. Liars to their bootstraps.

Therefore, because Christians display hypocrisy, Atheists can too? That's a great argument for stupids who seem to think that hypocrisy is ok... but I prefer my arguments with a little more integrity than that.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #127 - Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 10:46pm Everybody has been hypocritical to an extent some time in their life. One's personal religion or world view has no bearing on this. I just got back from Scotland, so to quote a phrase: "We're a' Jock Tamson's Bairns"
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #128 - Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 4:53am Quote: One's personal religion or world view has no bearing on this. Yes it does. It makes a hella difference.
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #129 - Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 11:12am

muso wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 10:46pm:

Everybody has been hypocritical to an extent some time in their life.

Intention plays a role in deciding the hypocrisy. What the AFA did was knowingly against their understanding of Atheism. The AFA was knowingly acting hypocritically so that they could access rights that they do not view as their own.... freedom of religious expression. More over, it was a profoundly selfish act that flew in the face of Humanism.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #130 - Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 12:44pm Quote: rights that they do not view as their own.... freedom of religious expression Can you explain this? Do they oppose freedom of religion? Or just deny that their views are religious?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #131 - Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 2:37pm They're more than atheists, their anti-theists... 'Anti' in the way anti-social means more than just non-social.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53184 At my desk.	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #132 - Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 7:26pm So they oppose freedom of religion?
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #133 - Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:53am

What I find most interesting is the member based Boards list. Not one for religion, Christianity or Muslims but there is one for atheist discusions.

And, by the way Freediver, Abbott should apologise to everyone, quietly resign from Parliament and go seek solitude on a hilltop somewhere. His monk's haircut is now ready if you've seen him from behind so he's ready to contemplate and meditate on bigger things. Like lying and the effects of that.

These last few posts are talking about absolutely nothing, just sheer drivel.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #134 - Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:55am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 10:47pm:

muso wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 7:39pm:

I was having some nice chilli crab at Boat Quay, Singapore last night when a fortune teller approached. I bet she wished she didn't.

Tell my future? You don't even know my past! When was I last in Singapore - exact date - see - you don't know.

You can't tell the future and you know that perfectly well. Why don't you just get some flowers and sell those to diners instead? At least it's an honest job.

OK - make it $10.

You owe me $10 for good career advice........

Hey Muso, good to have you back here.

Don't forget Thatcher was told by a Gypsy, before she ascended to the pinnacle of British politics, when she was no one, that her legacy would rival that of Churchill's.

Good for you Muso. You stole my joke from about 2 weeks ago. Well done. Anything else you can plagiarise?

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