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Reply #150 - Jul 6th, 2011 at 11:02pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 10:55pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 10:44pm:
No place for the weak

Not an Übermensch, surely...

Nein. Nur ein mensch, mein freund,

Nur ein Mensch
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Reply #151 - Jul 6th, 2011 at 11:18pm
 
Die Erleichterung! Sie begann wie Nietzsche zu sprechen.
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Reply #152 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 7:02am
 
Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 11:18pm:
Die Erleichterung! Sie begann wie Nietzsche zu sprechen.

Ah Nietzsche!

If only his mutter had bought him zat FriedrichDerGrosse suit venn he voss ein Junge.

Ze welt vood not heff "Also Sprach Zarathustra" und I vood not be trying to speak pig-English-Platt-Deutsch in ze hopes of conveying a comedic parody of ein Weiner Psychoanalytiker.

Funny ole world.

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Reply #153 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 8:22am
 
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Mais non.... Il est le "Kath et Kim", n'est pas?


My babelfish is not very good, but I understand that to ask if "moi" was meant to be from Kath and Kim. Yes it was.


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And yet you try to fill the hockey-shaped hole in your life.  Tongue

The story of modernity - trying to fill the god-shaped hole in life.


Yes I suppose that many hockey players might be of the opinion that you cannot live a pure (good, moral, happy..etc.) life unless you play hockey. Doubtful.., but If so, then good for them. I'm still not interested in hockey Grin

Of all of the religions ever to exist, it's hardly worth asking any one of them what their definition of " God" is, as the reply will generally be from a supernatural perspective borne from the ideas and writings of ordinary humans....that's if they can provide a definition at all.

IMO, you'd be far better off asking a rabbit it's definition of God.
When it fails to reply, you might then think it wiser to just watch the rabbit and see what the rabbit thinks God is.

The past lot of posts only serves to fortify my idea of what God might say.
I reckon God might say something like:

"You see? It's a competition!
I gave you all eyes and ears and only a meagre percentage of you know what planet I've placed you all on!"

I'm not able to dictate what you might think God would say, 'cause I'm an athiest and therefore not religious.
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #154 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 10:27am
 
Amadd wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 8:22am:
I reckon God might say something like:

"You see? It's a competition!
I gave you all eyes and ears and only a meagre percentage of you know what planet I've placed you all on!"

I'm not able to dictate what you might think God would say, 'cause I'm an athiest and therefore not religious.


Grin Grin Grin

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2007/1908293.htm

Read the transcript:

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'Hi there, it's God here, and after reading Richard's book I have found his argument so compelling that I have realised that the possibility of my existence is extraordinarily remote. In light of this revelation I hereby declare that I, God, have become an atheist, and as this will be my last message to humanity, I therefore lay the weight of responsibility for mankind's wellbeing on Mr Richard Dawkins himself. And while he may not quite be a god, he certainly does move in a mysterious way. Put it down to the lumbago. And so may you all rest in the security that all your dreams, hopes and beliefs are nothing more than the rumblings of a few strands of proteins assembled by no one for no higher purpose. Have a nice day. Amen.'
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Reply #155 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:29am
 
Gee, didn't you understand the transcript yourself?

That's great that God has become an athiest, because God is a personal human idea that ought not to be thrust onto the ideas of others. Take it or leave it.

Did Dawkins ever assume himself as being "God" or "Godlike" in nature?
Well of course he didn't.

Did you not comprehend that the writer of the sarcastic remark was in fact assuming himself (most probably a him) as speaking for God, and therefore assuming himself as being God?

Hmmm...swoosh  Grin




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Reply #156 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 2:14pm
 
Amadd wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:29am:
Gee, didn't you understand the transcript yourself?

That's great that God has become an athiest, because God is a personal human idea that ought not to be thrust onto the ideas of others. Take it or leave it.

Did Dawkins ever assume himself as being "God" or "Godlike" in nature?
Well of course he didn't.

Did you not comprehend that the writer of the sarcastic remark was in fact assuming himself (most probably a him) as speaking for God, and therefore assuming himself as being God?

Hmmm...swoosh  Grin






What God? Who said there was a God?

Why would Dawkins do that? He was on about evolution.
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Reply #157 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 8:45pm
 
Amadd wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:29am:
Gee, didn't you understand the transcript yourself?

That's great that God has become an athiest, because God is a personal human idea that ought not to be thrust onto the ideas of others. Take it or leave it.

Did Dawkins ever assume himself as being "God" or "Godlike" in nature?
Well of course he didn't.

Did you not comprehend that the writer of the sarcastic remark was in fact assuming himself (most probably a him) as speaking for God, and therefore assuming himself as being God?

Hmmm...swoosh  ;

I say mate, I say bloke, I say bloke, I say mate, I say bloke... The swoosh is on you.

Religion requires faith... God cannot be religious because, like the Buddhist who's reached enlightenment is beyond 'Buddhism', 'God' is beyond faith.

No faith.. No religion.
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Reply #158 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 10:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 10:08pm:
Amadd wrote on Jul 5th, 2011 at 8:28am:
I consider myself an "A"theist, bordering on an "anti"theist, largely because of nonsensical claims of being opposed to religious philosophies due to my personal lack of interest in them.

IMO, religions come under the "look at moi" category as much as anything else that I might or might not be interested in.

Eg: If I'm not interested in playing "hockey" in the present tense, then that doesn't mean that I would never be interested in playing hockey in the future.
It also doesn't mean that I am against hockey in any way, it just means that I have taken no interest in it. So I am "A"hockey, I'm not "Anti-hockey".




And yet you try to fill the hockey-shaped hole in your life.  Tongue

The story of modernity - trying to fill the god-shaped hole in life.




Joe Hockey is God?
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Reply #159 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 10:27pm
 
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Joe Hockey is God?


Just a minor demon actually  Smiley
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Reply #160 - Jul 8th, 2011 at 12:20pm
 
Amadd wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:29am:
Gee, didn't you understand the transcript yourself?

That's great that God has become an athiest, because God is a personal human idea that ought not to be thrust onto the ideas of others. Take it or leave it.

Did Dawkins ever assume himself as being "God" or "Godlike" in nature?
Well of course he didn't.

Did you not comprehend that the writer of the sarcastic remark was in fact assuming himself (most probably a him) as speaking for God, and therefore assuming himself as being God?

Hmmm...swoosh  Grin







I posted it because it was funny and because Flacco said something similar to you.  Why did you assume I was having a dig at you? I wasn't.
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Reply #161 - Jul 9th, 2011 at 3:46am
 
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I posted it because it was funny and because Flacco said something similar to you.  Why did you assume I was having a dig at you? I wasn't.


You should.

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Reply #162 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:53pm
 
No, it's not a religion.
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Reply #163 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 2:35pm
 
Kytro wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:53pm:
No, it's not a religion.



http://firstchurchofatheism.com/

Actually, you're both right. There is obviously a religion around atheism(where else but in the USA?), however it obviously doesn't include all atheists.  Wow -  4840 ministers ordained!


Here is a parallel:

Women get pregnant: True - but that is not a general statement about all women.

Atheists are religious: True, but that applies to an even smaller proportion of the whole.  

End of story. Nothing to see here folks. Let's move on.

Atheism is a pretty meaningless term because it expresses a lack of belief in something that is pretty meaningless to just about all atheists (ie divinities).

The Atheist Motto: "You call it God, and I will not believe in it on principle,  regardless of what you think it is supposed to be"

It's at that stage that I talk about my mass psycho-social phenomenon that I call God.  The problem with that one, is that I can prove that it exists.  The term atheist is therefore ... not very good when applied generally to all gods.
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