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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #135 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 7:06am

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2011 at 12:44pm:

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rights that they do not view as their own.... freedom of religious expression

Can you explain this? Do they oppose freedom of religion? Or just deny that their views are religious?

When I wrote that opinion, I was thinking only that they 'just deny that their views are religious.' However, the AFA forum is not a bastion of free speech. The bulk of the members are anti religion and vehemently so. I don't know if their goal is to destroy religion, but certainly there are some members there who would like that.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #136 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:09am

boogieman wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 10:47pm:

muso wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 7:39pm:

I was having some nice chilli crab at Boat Quay, Singapore last night when a fortune teller approached. I bet she wished she didn't.

Tell my future? You don't even know my past! When was I last in Singapore - exact date - see - you don't know.

You can't tell the future and you know that perfectly well. Why don't you just get some flowers and sell those to diners instead? At least it's an honest job.

OK - make it $10.

You owe me $10 for good career advice........

Hey Muso, good to have you back here.

Don't forget Thatcher was told by a Gypsy, before she ascended to the pinnacle of British politics, when she was no one, that her legacy would rival that of Churchill's.

Good for you Muso. You stole my joke from about 2 weeks ago. Well done. Anything else you can plagiarise?

Well all I can say is that great minds think alike. I honestly didn't see your joke. I've been on holiday.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #137 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:28am

I consider myself an "A"theist, bordering on an "anti"theist, largely because of nonsensical claims of being opposed to religious philosophies due to my personal lack of interest in them.

IMO, religions come under the "look at moi" category as much as anything else that I might or might not be interested in.

Eg: If I'm not interested in playing "hockey" in the present tense, then that doesn't mean that I would never be interested in playing hockey in the future.
It also doesn't mean that I am against hockey in any way, it just means that I have taken no interest in it. So I am "A"hockey, I'm not "Anti-hockey".

Of course a feeble attempt at rationalism will not compute for those who consider the word "religion" to hold supernatural powers.
Would it help if I said that I don't believe that religions hold any supernatural powers whatsoever?
Would it help if told you that I don't believe that you can kill me with a gaze or withhold from me a gold pass to heaven?

It should help you understand that I have little interest in what you believe to be true...but I won't be holding my breath there.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #138 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:39am

Sappho wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2011 at 1:44pm:

boogieman wrote on Jun 30^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Sappho wrote on May 5^th, 2011 at 7:18am:

Probably not. But that doesn't mean that the AFA should demean atheism by using laws against religion discrimination to get what they want.

There are so many better ways of addressing their right to display billboards without having to admit itself a religion and claim discrimination for religious reasons.

It's wrong!

Why not? Should hypocrisy be the sole quality of religious freaks? Don't you like seeing hypocrisy as we sure as hell see more than enough of it from the Christian brigade. Liars to their bootstraps.

Therefore, because Christians display hypocrisy, Atheists can too? That's a great argument for stupids who seem to think that hypocrisy is ok... but I prefer my arguments with a little more integrity than that.

Bump.

Your lack of comment seems perplexing given your self professed superior debating abilities.

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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #139 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:41am Amadd wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:28am: IMO, religions come under the "look at moi" category as much as anything else that I might or might not be interested in. What do you mean... 'look at moi'?
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #140 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 9:05am Quote: What do you mean... 'look at moi'? Kath and Kim, catwalk models, whores...that kinda stuff. You should "look at moi", cause I got the good oil
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #141 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 12:15pm

muso wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:12am:

boogieman wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 10:47pm:

muso wrote on Jun 28^th, 2011 at 7:39pm:

I was having some nice chilli crab at Boat Quay, Singapore last night when a fortune teller approached. I bet she wished she didn't.

Tell my future? You don't even know my past! When was I last in Singapore - exact date - see - you don't know.

You can't tell the future and you know that perfectly well. Why don't you just get some flowers and sell those to diners instead? At least it's an honest job.

OK - make it $10.

You owe me $10 for good career advice........

Hey Muso, good to have you back here.

Don't forget Thatcher was told by a Gypsy, before she ascended to the pinnacle of British politics, when she was no one, that her legacy would rival that of Churchill's.

Good for you Muso. You stole my joke from about 2 weeks ago. Well done. Anything else you can plagiarise?

Well all I can say is that great minds think alike. I honestly didn't see your joke. I've been on holiday.

Good reply mate. You got it, what I was saying. Thank God someone here is able to show some G and D.

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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #142 - Jul 5^th, 2011 at 7:50pm

Sappho wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:41am:

Amadd wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:28am:

IMO, religions come under the "look at moi" category as much as anything else that I might or might not be interested in.

What do you mean... 'look at moi'?

So you thought he was cracking a "Frenchy" too Grin

Maybe it should read "Look at moy" !

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #143 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 5:50pm Nup. It's definitely "Moi". Oui Oui Oui?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #144 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:03pm Mais non.... Il est le "Kath et Kim", n'est pas?
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Re: Is Atheism a Religion?
Reply #145 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:08pm

Amadd wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:28am:

I consider myself an "A"theist, bordering on an "anti"theist, largely because of nonsensical claims of being opposed to religious philosophies due to my personal lack of interest in them.

IMO, religions come under the "look at moi" category as much as anything else that I might or might not be interested in.

Eg: If I'm not interested in playing "hockey" in the present tense, then that doesn't mean that I would never be interested in playing hockey in the future.
It also doesn't mean that I am against hockey in any way, it just means that I have taken no interest in it. So I am "A"hockey, I'm not "Anti-hockey".

And yet you try to fill the hockey-shaped hole in your life. Tongue

The story of modernity - trying to fill the god-shaped hole in life.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #146 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:15pm Soren wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:08pm: And yet you try to fill the hockey-shaped hole in your life. The story of modernity - trying to fill the god-shaped hole in life. What burdens they be! That are borne by the strong.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #147 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:22pm Ah! Heroisme! Now there's a pose to strike...
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #148 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:44pm No place for the weak
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Atheism a Religion? Reply #149 - Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:55pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:44pm: No place for the weak Not an Übermensch, surely...
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