Very slick Topic you got going here FreeDiver.

'Knock ...knock!!'
"Who's there?" I answer as I open my door.
"Its us from the Church of Latter Day Saints" They spoke in unison and they had two little children with them.
"Waddaya want?" I ask politely as someone who has lived in Mt Druitt and Min'o could do.
"We would like you to buy one of our Magazines which will help you towards understanding and believing in God." They smiled.
"How much?" I asked somewhat detached.
"Oh just $6." They grinned at the high possibility of a sale finally.
"Well, I'll buy your magazine if you buy my magazine, ok?" I ventured.
"Er ...your magazine?" they slowed in speech, somewhat confused as to what to say.
I lifted my Dive Pacific Magazine from off the table near the door and stuck it in their faces so they could see the wonderful photos of Wrecks and Blue Wrasses.
"Only $12 - kinda cheap for such quality print like this." I pushed the sale.
"Um, well, um ...We only read books pertaining to Jesus Christ and God and we would like you to feel the same..." They defended, politely of course, though the smiles had certainly dissapeared, as I cut them off.
"Well I guess we're both at a stalemate - I believe in Scuba Diving and all things Water-Life Aquatic ...and you guys don't." I responded with a huff of rejection.
"Well Water and Aquatic Life is one of Gods creations." They attacked with full justification and domination.
"Then I guess you guys will sign up for all the Dive Certs and come Scuba Diving via my Dive Shop and Club." I stared.
...silence.
A moment, then I  shut the door. Damn I thought, I could have made a $6 profit.

...am I an Atheist? No, I just believe in something else other than Religion.

I don't think he knows he exists himself.

I do however respect the rights of individuals to believe in whatever they like, as long as they dont shove it down my throat 

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Well said also.

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 5:01pm:


Only selfish people like badweekend would think there is a god that just offers him miracles and nobody else including children dying of starvation for the want of a dollars worth of food

freediver wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 8:24pm:


None of you exist. You are all figments of my imagination.

Way out of my depth, but why not.

The question seems simple, a technical paradox? But subjectively silly.

If a priest/strong believer is idle, having no belief in anything, maybe thinking about dinner, do we label his present self or do we have to ask.
What about when they are questioning their beliefs? Or they witness something horrific that leaves them in a prolonged state of real doubt?
My point is that its a personal label with a somewhat objective interpretation.
If i say i'm atheist you know what i mean, if i say i'm theist you know what i mean.

Does the question have a practical implication/motive? Or is it simply an exercise?

I don't believe in god,

Does that mean I believe god doesn't exist?

I dunno. But I'll play.

I believe that god doesn't exist.

But what exactly is god?

When I was little my mum told me god was like this fatherly all powerful figure who watched over us.

Even at the age of 4 or 5 I was thinking "so it's like that three bears or seven dwarves bullshit?"