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Reply #15 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 5:38pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 2:16pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 2:15pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 2:02pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 1:57pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 1:33pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 1:31pm:
sure if East Timor was enjoying economic prosperity & services like Australia



Last time I checked Australia was in debt?


Name one western country that's not.
Name one that projects a surplus in 12/13 (not that I agree with it)




Norway


Yes but how much tax do they pay????????????????
To throw one of your points back at you Cool



You asked for a western world country not in debt and running a surplus.
That's what you got.



Maybe & maybe not?

Norway


Budget:
revenues: $226.8 billion
expenditures: $187 billion (2010 est.)

Public debt:
47.7% of GDP (2010 est.)
country comparison to the world: 55
49.8% of GDP (2009 est.)

Looks like Annual Surplus - YES?
And, Debt - YES!
So Norway qualifies on one count, but not the other, IF you are only looking at gross Debt.

However, Norway also has a "Soveriegn Wealth Fund", which in effect is their Baby Boomer Pension Fund, which stood at some US$525 billion, as the 31/12/2010.
So, if you are looking at Norway's "Net Financial Debt/Surplus" position, then Norway has a substantial Surplus, as its National Debt of about 50% of its GDP, which stands around US$440 Billion, is well within its  "Soveriegn Wealth Funds" credit position of US$525 Billion
Link -
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/no.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway

I don't know I would put too much trust in some of those figures (Debt/ GDP), after all, they were produced by the CIA.

Finally, I may have to make an apology, as I have been a little harsh, in suggesting that almost all Politicians are worth 2 knobs of goat sh!t.

Having now looked at what the Norway Pollies have done, I may need to look further at them, as they may need to be excluded, seeing as to how they may have properly accounted for the Baby Boomer Bust Pension & Health needs.

All of which, goes to suggest that it could have & should have been done properly?

And, again to give credit where it is due, at least the Libs under Howard did some provisioning in the "Future Fund". However, it is nowhere near sufficient!  
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