Howdy folks - just been reading the prev posts.

It seems ludicrous to me the govt and opposition still seek to beat up the most disadvantaged in our society, and think it'll win them votes.
"cos thats what is important for them.

I mean really - Unemployment in Aus at the moment is running at what ?  <5%? -  Near enough.  In fact Australian industry is  crying out for  workers.

The assumptions implicit in the sort of rhetoric coming from govt and opposition is an insult to Australians - and particularly to the disabled.

To say that half the folk on DSP should be working in industry or where-ever is simply a mindless statement that will appeal to all the equally moronic public who would agree with this preposition.

So  this push for retraining and making ill people work has only one real basis.  Publicity /  Public Opinion / Propaganda.   - as spouted in Polls and the News.

Rather than deal with and utilise the now thousands of people imprisoned in camps by our govt , people who came here because they were desperate to make a better life, to work and grow, Govts prefer a different approach .
The harm of this policy  is playing on our TV News , with distressing regularity.
To hear some pompous arrogant and essentially robotic Minister threaten these people with further injustice is utterly repellent to me - to put it politely.

Of course these polls etc are totally irrelevant when it comes to assessing the real feeling of the community at large.  Why govts, despite claims to the contrary, pay them any mind at all is beyond me.( yet it's pretty obvious to us all that they do. )

But - logically what is the reason for this purported  'tough' stance on Disabled Pensioners??

I can't think of a legitimate reason at all.  Not ONE.

Fair enough we know there are some crook bastards out there ('scuse the Pun) - bastards who'll take anything that's not nailed down,  locked up or otherwise secured.
If the Govt really thinks that there are people receiving a DSP incorrectly, let them follow-up, as they rightly should,, BUT lets not try to apply a 'One Size Fits All'  policy.

<<You dont need lots of money to access the courts, you just need to know the law and your rights - I can take any institution I like on in any court for next to nothing - tough titties - you will need another reform there to plug that one up to further entrench social exclusion... >>
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Well said Jalane and 100% correct. The government are too incapable to follow up and prosecute the few that rort the system so they tar the whole lot with the same brush.

Private citizens have taken the government to court on many occasions, sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. People should never sit back and take being victimised because they face a Goliath.

Give it your best shot prevailing, good luck and if you win, your case will be the first of many, well at least until the govt. put a law in to prevent any further action against them. The lady who took the govt to court to enable students to claim tools of the trade won.....then the govt. changed the rules so that students can't claim again.

You have to be brave to take on the bureaucracy but hey! if you don't give it a go you'll never know.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 1^st, 2011 at 7:46am:


Thanks for the kind wishes I will, there is plenty of stonewalling and road blocks, but I am mowing them down.  I am going to smash the Government over the head over there welfare reforms with cruel and unusual punishment and I am suing them for millions for stirring up an immoral witchhunt, for political thuggery, for abuse of power, for playing the blame game causing pain and distress and for discrimination against the rights and the dignity of the sick and the disabled.


Yes I am suing them for millions, I am not mucking around with these psychopaths.

I dont believe unemployed people should receive everything in cash.
They don't have the right to pick and choose what they do with it - lets remember here they don't do anything for it. They just exist.

I just don't see why they should get 100% cash.
I would have 50% cash, 50% in things like food stamps and utilities credits - so we ensure they spend it correctly.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 1^st, 2011 at 9:08am:

I dont see why the same measures should not be applied to you, unless there is some reason you believe you have the right to treat these people differently than you yourself should be.

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How the smack would you know what they do? Do you know each and every one of them personally? A lot of them probably deserve their pay more than you do.

What makes you the expert on people's value? Your values are totally distorted in comparison to the 'norm'.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 1^st, 2011 at 9:24am:

Charity is a much more worthy and noble cause to strive for than antisocial self-centered Philanthropy, social exclusion and meritocracy you know.  What makes you believe you merit more dignity than any other person?  What makes you think you have the right to take away the dignity of another person or exclude them?