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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Half On Disability Pension Should Get A Job. Reply #30 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 3:11pm I don't know that I'd say half....maybe 10% or 20%...
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Half On Disability Pension Should Get A Job. Reply #31 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:00pm Mission Australia make their profits per scalp by how many unemployed they can return to the workforce - they are deliberately seeking to exploit the disabled for personal financial gain and I have initiated legal action against them.
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Re: Half On Disability Pension Should Get A Job.
Reply #32 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:49pm

Prevailing wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

Mission Australia make their profits per scalp by how many unemployed they can return to the workforce - they are deliberately seeking to exploit the disabled for personal financial gain and I have initiated legal action against them. Angry

The employment arm of Mission Australia are no different to Sarina Russo, they are corporations that are only interested in making massive profits. They exploit the unemployed then have the gall to make out that people don't want work. They haunted me at my workplace, to sign off so they would get paid. I didn't sign off but I should have sued them for harassment (SR that is). They are parasites.

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Reply #33 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:50pm

mozzaok wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

Howard was worried about unemployment figures, back about 7 or 8 years ago I think, and had a heap of long term unemployed, moved onto disability pensions.

Can you cite any evidence that howard moved long term unemployed onto the DSP?

Over 10 years ago Howard tightened the eligibility for the DSP so those capable of working 15 or more hours per week do not qualify for the DSP.

The people who are on the DSP for alcoholism or drug addiction should be kicked off it how does it help by giving them sit down money?

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Reply #34 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 8:13pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:50pm:

mozzaok wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

Howard was worried about unemployment figures, back about 7 or 8 years ago I think, and had a heap of long term unemployed, moved onto disability pensions.

Can you cite any evidence that howard moved long term unemployed onto the DSP?

Over 10 years ago Howard tightened the eligibility for the DSP so those capable of working 15 or more hours per week do not qualify for the DSP.

The people who are on the DSP for alcoholism or drug addiction should be kicked off it how does it help by giving them sit down money?

I have known and worked with a few people who have
subsequently been pensioned-off for these reasons, and to
be perfectly honest, that's the best place for them.

They're a threat to themselves and everyone else on most worksites.

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Reply #35 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 6:20am

Kat wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 8:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:50pm:

mozzaok wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

Howard was worried about unemployment figures, back about 7 or 8 years ago I think, and had a heap of long term unemployed, moved onto disability pensions.

Can you cite any evidence that howard moved long term unemployed onto the DSP?

Over 10 years ago Howard tightened the eligibility for the DSP so those capable of working 15 or more hours per week do not qualify for the DSP.

The people who are on the DSP for alcoholism or drug addiction should be kicked off it how does it help by giving them sit down money?

I have known and worked with a few people who have
subsequently been pensioned-off for these reasons, and to
be perfectly honest, that's the best place for them.

They're a threat to themselves and everyone else on most worksites.

Me too. I don't want to work alongside an alcoholic or drug addict. It makes you wonder if the people who make these outrageous comments have ever been in the workforce.

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Reply #36 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 7:13am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 1:43pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

I am sick and tired of all the lazy oiks with their hand out looking for a free ride when they should get a fking job.

what about non Australian businesses such as Holden and Ford getting 100's of millions in corporate welfare Sad

Aren't you sick of that ? I am Sad

lol rusty didnt rudd give holden $80mil to design a green car now you wouldn t complain about that would you?.. you know how Oz likes being first with everything..I do wonder how much we are stimulating the country though... I do think we are entitled to know that another thing that annoyed the tripe out of me.. was the 50% off TV Mogals TV Licences.. damn disgracful..and then they levy people to help clean up a flood..sheeeeeeeeeeeeez!

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Reply #37 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 8:03am

<<was the 50% off TV Mogals TV Licences.. damn disgracful..and then they levy people to help clean up a flood..sheeeeeeeeeeeeez! >>
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Packer and Murdoch look after them, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. There should be a law against donating to political parties then the cake would be divided more evenly.....maybe?

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Reply #38 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 8:09am

Small private donations, up to, say, 5 grand. I have
no problem with.

But big-business, ESPECIALLY those either partly or
wholly foreign-owned, OR foreign-based, should be
PROHIBITED from donating AT ALL.

They do NOT have the country's best interests at heart
and are essentially BRIBING our politicians.

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Reply #39 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 8:20am

Any other 'baby-boomers' remember the much-talked-about
Generation Gap, when we were teens?

You know, where it seemed like our parents were from
another planet, and had no idea where we were 'coming from'?

Notice, though, that the wheel has now turned full-circle, and
now it's our kids and grand-kids who seem to come from
another planet, and have no idea.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Half On Disability Pension Should Get A Job. Reply #40 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 6:24pm How can the morally repulsive, the vile, the lecherous, the covetous, the Lying, the criminally minded of the Corporate world claim a moral mandate to reform and control the lives of the innocent and the pure in heart?
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Reply #41 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 6:57pm

Kat wrote on Apr 30^th, 2011 at 8:20am:

Any other 'baby-boomers' remember the much-talked-about
Generation Gap, when we were teens?

You know, where it seemed like our parents were from
another planet, and had no idea where we were 'coming from'?

Notice, though, that the wheel has now turned full-circle, and
now it's our kids and grand-kids who seem to come from
another planet, and have no idea.

Yep...And THAT is the Generation Gap..in a nutshell..

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #42 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 7:12pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:21am:

In a perfect world those 400,000 disabled people would want to get a job and there would be 400,000 jobs available just waiting for them to step into........sweet!!!

in a perfect world, idiots like you would not be entitled to a public opinion incase stupidiy is contagious.

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Reply #43 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 7:13pm

Prevailing wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:03am:

I have informed Mission Australia by Phone that I am taking legal action against their organization for their comments today and will be seeking substantial damages. Angry

yeah right... you think anyone on hear beleives ANYTHING you say??

Plus the right to free speech still exists here.

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Reply #44 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 7:15pm

Prevailing wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:42am:

Prevailing wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:03am:

I have informed Mission Australia by Phone that I am taking legal action against their organization for their comments today and will be seeking substantial damages. Angry

I hope you do. It is time people started taking action against people like this. The trouble is that the system is so set up to undermine the disadvantaged, for instance I bet legal aid will not be available to you. The government know when they have you over a barrel.

Mass protest or class action comes to mind.

Legal aid is indeed withheld from me so I am presently proceeding through the HROEC on these matters before I get to court and I am personally dealing with the High Court over injunctions against the Government for my own protection. The trouble is emotional energy for the task is limited, because I have been tortured by a former employer but I am trying. I aint letting them take what remains of my dignity without seeking payback, revenge and justice. Angry

you are a tool and anyone who supports your insanity - like pansi - is also a tool. mind you, we already knew that!

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