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Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation?
Reply #45 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:41pm:

Longweekend.
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you do seem very anally fixated...

The Church seems to be anally fixated.
You tell me how an infallible Pope came up with
the idea for people to be hoisted up on ropes &
dropped onto a pyramid which reamed out their backside
in order to torture them?

You can't answer that can you -
watch Longweekend disappear.

why are you so anally fixaated, booby? thoughts of lastnail in your head?

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #46 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:46pm Unfortunately, Xtians do have a long history of being both violently and sexually-fixated (often combining the two) and especially on the part of the predominantly-male clergy - which probably also explains the anal bit...
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Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation?
Reply #47 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:41pm:

Longweekend.
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you do seem very anally fixated...

The Church seems to be anally fixated.
You tell me how an infallible Pope came up with
the idea for people to be hoisted up on ropes &
dropped onto a pyramid which reamed out their backside
in order to torture them?

You can't answer that can you -
watch Longweekend disappear.

A person's faith should be taken into context when analysing this sort of torture and cruelty

The Pope knows what he is doing

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111865 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #48 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:51pm And more:
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111865 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #49 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:52pm And more:
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Bobby.

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Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation?
Reply #50 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:54pm

Equitist wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:46pm:

Unfortunately, Xtians do have a long history of being both violently and sexually-fixated (often combining the two) and especially on the part of the predominantly-male clergy - which probably also explains the anal bit...

You try telling Longweekend that.
He sees only Christ's love.

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Foolosophy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1171 Australia Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #51 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:07pm
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #52 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:34pm http://youtu.be/qqB3F6N527U
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #53 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:47pm NOOOOOO MOOOOOOORE!!!!
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #54 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:49pm
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #55 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:56pm Grey wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:34pm: [media] remind me again of all the good mao and stalin did. oh and lets add pol pot in as well ok? all atheists.
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Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation?
Reply #56 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 8:18pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 7:56pm:

remind me again of all the good mao and stalin did. oh and lets add pol pot in as well ok? all atheists.

Their atheism is questionable, as they banned all other religions in favour of their own, communism, a totalitarian system every bit as anti-science and constructed with just as much woo as any other religion.

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Communism was a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy. This fact is illustrated by the numerous ways in which Communism embraced and attemped to promulgate peculiar quasi-religious (and often clearly anti-scientific) beliefs which had nothing all to do with politics or government. Although Communism typically touted itself as anti-religious and pro-science, it was, in fact, deeply anti-scientific and clearly a religion. One of Communism's hallmarks in the Soviet Union and China was its aggressive and violent suppression of other religions. Communism was "anti-religious" only in the sense that it forcibly suppressed all religions other than itself. From: Colin MacCabe, Godard: A Portrait of the Artist at Seventy, Farrar, Straus and Giroux: New York (2003), page 398:

http://www.adherents.com/people/ps/Joseph_Stalin.html

As we can see from this argument it is the adoption of an at least religion like rigidity ot thought that feeds the monster in man. A rigidity that the Atheist, like the Anarchist, rejects. Thank you for raising this important issue Longweekend, it confuses many people.

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Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation?
Reply #57 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:12pm

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Their atheism is questionable

But some guy from 500 years ago who tortured people was certainly a follower of Jesus, or a true representation of Catholicism? Surely you can see the silly circular reasoning you are getting yourself into?

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A rigidity that the Atheist, like the Anarchist, rejects.

I could understand that statement for an anarchist or an agnostic, but an atheist? Some of the most rigid people I have met are atheists. How could someone who holds a firm belief based on nothing more than the rejection of other people's belief be anything but rigid?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111865 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #58 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:24pm Freediver. Quote: some guy from 500 years No - a sucession of Popes for 500 years were responsible for the Inquisition. They were all infallible. No reply from Freediver - it's a good point isn't it?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Religion: A 21stC anachronism or mans salvation? Reply #59 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:41pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 10:24pm: They were all infallible. No, only for the last 141 years.... Popes... Getting it right since 1870.
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