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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Aunty moving too far right? Reply #15 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 3:56pm London is no longer an English city, says John Cleese. Is he right? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100084274/london-is-no-longer-an-englis... Ken oath he's right.
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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102244	Re: Is Aunty moving too far right? Reply #16 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 5:27pm I'd go as far as to say that the Bank of England is no longer an English bank and the British stock market is no longer a British stock market and the British sausage is no longer a British sausage and the British Empire is no longer British or an empire. I could go on.
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Reply #17 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 5:51pm

That's an awful lot of waffle in search of a coherent point.

Thank you for confirming that my point was coherent. Most of the waffle came from elementing the original post.

But you may well be so cloth-eared that you do not hear the difference between an 'Australian' and an 'Australian national'.

Cloth-eared? Geez. Haven't heard that pommism since Till Death Us Do Part. Anyways, 'Australian' & 'Australian National'. Whatever are you on about? Both phrases are interchangable. One sounds homey while the other has a nice official cling to it. But if there is more to it I am afraid you failed to elaborate.

But perhaps we are closer on this than either of us would dare to confirm in public. I never took much stock in dual citizenships & jumping flags. Hence I did not pursue a US passport in all those years when I had the opportunity. More's the pity.

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Reply #18 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 6:13pm

Earle Qaeda wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 5:51pm:

[color=#ff0000]. Anyways, 'Australian' & 'Australian National'. Whatever are you on about? Both phrases are interchangable. One sounds homey while the other has a nice official cling to it. But if there is more to it I am afraid you failed to elaborate.

Wrong! An Australian national is someone with an Australian passport. An Australian is someone with an Australian passport who supports European and Amerikan values; and thus, by definition, supports their war against the Boor, Kaiser Wilheim, Johnny Turk, Adolf Hitler, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussein, and despicable Muselmans and backward, tinted barbarians everywhere.

Don't forget it.

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Reply #19 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 6:28pm

An Australian national is someone with an Australian passport. An Australian is someone with an Australian passport who supports European and Amerikan values;

Lived there 30 years... only ratbag militiamen & movie producers spelled it America with a 'K". I am actually glad to come across an Australian (I assume you are) who doesn't dismiss the US out of hand. Thank you for that. Now if you have the patience tell me about European values. I'm wondering why I never learned them in my NSW public school. Was never required to teach them there either. Or are you just trying to avoid saying christian?

and thus, by definition, supports their war against the Boor, Kaiser Wilheim, Johnny Turk, Adolf Hitler, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussein, and despicable Muselmans and backward, tinted barbarians everywhere.

Jeez where were you in 1969? Seems sensible to me to support wars by reason of consideration, not accident of birth. But hey I like your Musselman reference [two ess's there I reckon]. I enjoy reading Master & Commander too. Fabulous series.

Don't forget it.

Oh be polite. No finger jabbing or yelling. That's so un-Australian.

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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102244	Re: Is Aunty moving too far right? Reply #20 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 6:34pm Sorry, E.C. You're right. We have manners in this country. Hence, we despise all despicable Musselmen who come here with the intention of vapourising us and making us have sex with pigs. We are civilized, after all.
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Reply #21 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 8:26pm

Hence, we despise all despicable Musselmen who come here with the intention of vapourising us and making us have sex with pigs.

We are civilized, after all.

Civilized. Yeah I like that bit too. And actually I also detest anyone who comes here with vaporization on their mind. But wow, you don't need to be a M'man to carry that thought. Hence it is rather vile of some folx to label 'em all that way. But sex with pigs... some confusion there. Isn't that more a Kiwi or Irish thing? Or maybe specific to seafaring nations? Anyway, don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

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Reply #22 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 9:00am

Soren wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 3:56pm:

London is no longer an English city, says John Cleese. Is he right?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100084274/london-is-no-longer-an-englis...

Ken oath he's right.

London never was an 'English' city. Its entire history has been formed and reformed by waves of immigrants. That's what gives it its hybrid vigour. I can understand a mental case like Cleese preferring the sedation of Bath, it's a good place for him to calm down, have a cup of tea and a bex and a good lie down while waiting for god.

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Reply #23 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 10:55am

Grey wrote on Apr 24^th, 2011 at 9:00am:

Soren wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 3:56pm:

London is no longer an English city, says John Cleese. Is he right?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100084274/london-is-no-longer-an-englis...

Ken oath he's right.

London never was an 'English' city. Its entire history has been formed and reformed by waves of immigrants. That's what gives it its hybrid vigour. I can understand a mental case like Cleese preferring the sedation of Bath, it's a good place for him to calm down, have a cup of tea and a bex and a good lie down while waiting for god.

The English language itself was formed and reformed by waves of immigrants.

On the original topic, my observation is that the ABC (Radio at least) tends away from the government of the day. When Howard was in power, it was noticeably left-leaning.

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Reply #24 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 5:04pm

On the original topic, my observation is that the ABC (Radio at least) tends away from the government of the day. When Howard was in power, it was noticeably left-leaning.

But that means you are sugesting that the current ALP lot are left wing??? All debate about effectiveness/defectiveness aside. My impression is that Jules policies are so far up the bum of Coalition policies & attitudes that they can see the soles of Bob Menzies' shoes.

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Reply #25 - Apr 24^th, 2011 at 7:12pm

It's a feature of Neo Conservatives that they don't care which nest they're raised in. I call 'em cuckoos. Tanner told them from student politics days, 'Gillard is a conservative and a careerist, she'll just use you'. He opposed her selection for a labor seat, he opposed her admittance to the left faction and he opposed her bid for the leadership and he wouldn't serve her for a minute. Smart guy Tanner.

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Reply #26 - Apr 25^th, 2011 at 2:34pm

Earle Qaeda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

On the original topic, my observation is that the ABC (Radio at least) tends away from the government of the day. When Howard was in power, it was noticeably left-leaning.

But that means you are sugesting that the current ALP lot are left wing??? All debate about effectiveness/defectiveness aside. My impression is that Jules policies are so far up the bum of Coalition policies & attitudes that they can see the soles of Bob Menzies' shoes.

No, the whole game of politics has moved to the right. The libertarian/ authoritarian cultural dimension now becomes more important than the old right/ left dimension that everybody pretends is the dominant factor.

I guess I was saying that the ABC has more of a subtle bias towards the opposition rather than the government in power.

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Earle Qaeda New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39	Re: Is Aunty moving too far right? Reply #27 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 12:39pm I guess I was saying that the ABC has more of a subtle bias towards the opposition rather than the government in power. Sounds good. Except.. if that's true, why'd they cancel The Sideshow? That despicable act definitely wasn't pandering to the then opposition.
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Reply #28 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 7:36pm

For me the litmus test is late Night Live on RN

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/

John Howard once said, "The ABC needs a sort of RW Phillip Adams" to which Phillip Adams replied, "A RW Phillip Adams would be Phillip Adams." Justifiably IMO as over the years RW people and causes have had their share of space on LNL. But now RN has placed 'Counterpoint'

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/

in a sort of opposition to LNL but objectivity is nowhere to be found on this vehicle of the barking right. A view borne out by a cursory glance at the web sites itineraries

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Reply #29 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 8:03pm

I really like Counterpoint. Sure they just pander to whichever guest they have on, but sometimes I get the impression that the pandering has become more a case of egging on. As far as the guests go, to me it just seems like one whiney sook after another. The guy a couple of weeks ago who was lamenting that "young conservative males" have an extremely tough time getting a leg over these days was a classic.

I also like Late Night Live.

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