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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #15 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:11am Don't agree with women in the front line. Equal opportunity gone mad. They'll be letting in gays next.
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #16 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:28am bogarde73 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:11am: Don't agree with women in the front line. Equal opportunity gone mad. They'll be letting in gays next. DADT
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #17 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:41am Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:28am: bogarde73 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:11am: Don't agree with women in the front line. Equal opportunity gone mad. They'll be letting in gays next. DADT Educate me smithy, what does DADT stand for?
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Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF
Reply #18 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:51am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:28am:

bogarde73 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:11am:

Don't agree with women in the front line. Equal opportunity gone mad.
They'll be letting in gays next.

DADT

Educate me smithy, what does DADT stand for?

Don't Ask, Don't Tell
It's the American answer to the Gay thing

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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #19 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:53am Thanks.
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Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF
Reply #20 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:55am

Thanks smithy - you learn something new ever day. Your comment prompted me to look up the "American answer to the gay thing "

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Don't ask, don't tell (DADT) is the term commonly used for the policy restricting United States military personnel from efforts to discriminate or harass closeted homosexual or bisexual service members or applicants, while barring those who are openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual from military service. The restrictions are mandated by federal law Pub.L. 103-160 (10 U.S.C. § 654). The policy prohibits people who "demonstrate a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts" from serving in the armed forces of the United States, because their presence "would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability." (10 U.S.C. § 654(b)) The act prohibits any homosexual or bisexual person from disclosing his or her sexual orientation or from speaking about any homosexual relationships, including marriages or other familial attributes, while serving in the United States armed forces. The act specifies that service members who disclose that they are homosexual or engage in homosexual conduct shall be separated (discharged) except when a service member's conduct was "for the purpose of avoiding or terminating military service" or when it "would not be in the best interest of the armed forces" (10 U.S.C. § 654(e)).

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mavisdavis Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1512	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #21 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 3:50pm I like the idea of lady soldiers, just think. When they get a bit bored between actions, the troops could all have a party, make a porno movie. Ooooops, that one`s been done!
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pepper New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #22 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:52pm I just do not see why women would want to be in that position in the first place.Psychologically and physically it is crazy. Would not want to fight any bloke. Yes I am a feminist, but not on this one. It is way scary that Julia has agreed on this, she should know better. Jeez, I thought she was smarter. Insane.
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Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF
Reply #23 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:13pm

Women should be allowed into combat roles when sporting teams are not separated out along gender lines. Before then it's just the usual mindless stupidity we have come to expect from idiots who come up with this sort of thing.

Why not have mixed boxing teams? Wrestling? What about athletics - running, jumping, javelin? Swimming? WHe have separate men's and women's teams?

Next thing, they'll want to drive tractors!!

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Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF
Reply #24 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:14pm

cods wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 7:37am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 7:23am:

This is a smokescreen for the government to be seen to be doing 'something', even if it is totally unrelated to the current defense 'crisis'.
I just hope that the enemies our troops are sent off to kill in foreign lands are as politically correct as our government is, should any be captured in combat.
Perhaps the government could issue the Taliban with a nice glossy flyer in Employment Diversity and Equal Opportunity for Women.
More stupidity from Labor.

Israel has had women in the front line for yonks..as smith said they then will get to be the top jockey in the ADF...

wouldnt like to do it myself.. where women get the strength to just carry the gear is a mystery to me.

I too got the impression from Minister Smith that women will only ever be promoted to the upper echelons of the ADF if they have been permitted to serve on the front line...

http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/SmithTranscripttpl.cfm?CurrentId=11682

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One of the reasons we announced it yesterday, in terms of bringing forward the implementation, was this very important point: because women are excluded from those roles, they are also, effectively, excluded from some of the senior leadership positions in the services. And by opening this up to women in the longer term, then women will be able to have aspirations - legitimate aspirations, leadership aspirations for all of the leadership positions in the force.

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Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF
Reply #25 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:23pm

I'm ambivalent about this proposal because I can't fathom why anyone - male or female - would want to fight on the front line anyway...

If selection and training processes are sufficiently rigorous, then it is conceivable that some (but not all) female recruits would meet the same minimum combat aptitude standards as their male counterparts...

Hence, if women put themselves forward for front line duties - and they meet the usual criteria - then there should be no reason why they should be excluded...

This is about removing the remaining arbitrary gender barriers - not about guaranteeing front line jobs for women per se...

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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #26 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:25pm moronic post from equitist
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pepper New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #27 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:45pm I agree that women have a right to be in any other role in the ADF. Just seems stupid and annoys me that some women think it might be cool to be in that position. NOT COOL. Women and men do react emotionally different. Men can be a lot colder and turn off. Women do not. No offense.
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pepper New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #28 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:46pm and i like driving tractors!
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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Women in combat roles in the ADF Reply #29 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:48pm SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE MY BED SOMEBODY NEEDS TO WASH THE DISHES
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