sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 6
th, 2011 at 12:16pm:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 6
th, 2011 at 11:53am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Apr 6
th, 2011 at 10:59am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 6
th, 2011 at 10:49am:
Quote:I'll say it again - it is time we had a referendum on the idea of Australia withdrawing from the UN 1951 Refugee Convention.
The last time I mentioned this, I noticed the do gooders like 'alevine' and 'philperth' disappeared back into the woodwork without any comments.
Come on, guys - surely you can't see a problem with that? Resolve this issue once and for all by finding out what the Australian people want.
After all, we are supposed to be a democratic country where Governments listen to and obey the will of the majority, aren't we? (Yeah, right).
Or alternatively dropping our annual refugee intake from 13,000 to another number.
Some would be concerned that dropping this figure would impact on us in some way.
But it wont as the intake numbers are set by the individual countries who are signatories to the Refugee Convention 1951.
New Zealand's refugee intake is 500 per year, and who cares or talks about that.
But nothing can change unfortunately while the government has a failed border protection policy in force, and is so inept and incompetent.
Their is no disincentive for foreign criminal gangs to smuggle people here.
The Navy's Border Protection Command should change their name, their protecting nothing.
They are a glorified overpaid concierge service providing escort to Australia.
Some criminal boat crews are back here on their second voyage after first spending a short stay in our lovely 5 star prison with free internet, free board, free medical, free English lessons, TV and 3 square meals a day in total consideration of their cultural and ethnicity, and then being flown home at our expense.
First class I hope.
After all, we don't want to offend the little possums.
Right...and how exactly will dropping the intake assist in stopping the inflow again?
If anything, considering most people who get on a boat are doing so because they've fled an Indonesian refugee camp, we need to increase our number of intake, perhaps doubling it. That way we can atleast speed up the processing and reduce this so called "queue." After all, last time I checked you don't stop "queue jumpers" by reducing the number of aisles.
Double it, now I've heard it all.
Haven't you realised, the system is collapsing right now.
Health, education, housing, water, jobs, crime, security.
Filling this country up with more non english speaking uneducated dole line fillers does what exactly?
Were you a fan of Keatings banana republic vision?
It's quite obvious that even doubling our intake, we would still see overcrowded detention centres as even more boats would arrive.
What's needed is a proper border protection policy that gives a disincentive to the boats crew to even make the voyage.
That's what we had before, and it 's what this incompetent government removed, and it's what those clowns are looking for again.
You'll find that majority of refugees are educated and highly skilled, and the only reason they have problems getting a job is because of your exact stereotyping of them.
The disincentive to the boat crew is to remove the clientele. To remove the clientele, you ened to remove the "queue." You don't remove the "queue" by reducing the number of intake.
Yes I've heard this line before, and even the ones that only made it to first grade are the 'educated' ones.
And all the woman that were refused schooling in their country because they are female, I suppose they are educated too?
And their highly skilled means what in a non-industrialised country?
Even the East Germans that worked in the auto shops couldn't get a job in West Germany when the wall came down in the 90's.
Why?
Because they don't make cars by hand in West Germany, and who wanted the crappy Eastern ones when they can buy a BMW or Mercedes.
And even if a small few are educated and trained, they would still find it difficult and not because of bias.
But simply because their qualifications are not recognised in this State or country, and they need 're-educating'.
Which is why the few foreign doctors and nurses that come here which we are critically short of can't get a go here.
So being a first class spear sharpener or goat herder means what to us?
The disincentive to the boat crew is to throw them in the slammer for ten years, the disincentive for the lot is to re-open Nauru and reintroduce TPV's.
Because we have come from the high point of 1 boat a year for 3 years and 5 detainees on Nauru thanks to Howard, to the ridiculous situation we are in now.
There is no way to remove the clientelle as you suggest, the situation in foreign lands is totally out of our hands, and their are millions of people waiting in camps.
And we can't solve all the worlds problems.
All thanks to to this incompetent and inept government we are in the situation we are in now.
Forum
Pages: 
