Given that the Greens are being credited with driving the biggest economic reform of our generation, and it is backed by an economic consensus, it is kind of hollow to claim they lack economic credibility.

Delivering the annual Gough Whitlam Oration in Sydney to Labor Party faithful, Ms Gillard tried to paint the ALP as being caught between the two extremes of the Greens and the Coalition.

"The Greens will never embrace Labor's delight at sharing the values of everyday Australians, in our cities, suburbs, towns and bush, who day after day do the right thing, leading purposeful and dignified lives, driven by love of family and nation," she said.

"The differences between Labor and the Greens take many forms but at the bottom of it are two vital ones. The Greens wrongly reject the moral imperative to a strong economy. The Greens have some worthy ideas and many of their supporters sincerely want a better politics in our country. They have good intentions but fail to understand the centrepiece of our big picture -- the people Labor strives to represent need work."

"We happily leave to the Greens being a party of protest with no tradition of striking the balance required to deliver major reform."

Last month, Ms Gillard described the Greens as an "extreme" party and Resources Minister Martin Ferguson said they were "basket weavers".
Senator Brown's office said he was reading the speech carefully and would respond.

So after 90 views on this thread there are

NO ONE

from the left that can present a coherent argument against the points I made other than insults?!

Maqqa wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 9:03pm:


Considering the structure of the carbon tax has not been released, it's best to first wait for the detail, and THEN comment, rather then start commenting now and assuming things.

Also, don't forget it is meant to be an interim tax, designed to begin the transition into an ETS, in 2015.  I do hope you understand how ETS works, and if you do, you will know that with an ETS there may be an initial jump for consumers, which will be covered by the carbon tax, but overall costs can not be continually passed on as businesses will simply price themselves out of the market. That was the beauty of the market-based system, the ETS, which the liberals killed off as a "great big new tax" and now actually have got the debate ONTO a "great big new tax."  

Well done hard right nuffs.  Nuffed it once again.

astro_surf wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 5:53pm:


So big business is taxed and passes on the cost to the householder, and then householders are compensated.
Is that the 'big picture' that economic alarmists need to understand?
Where is that 'big stick' again, and how will this induce big business to do anything?
And how will this tax that isn't a tax change the air?
Looks like more Labor smoke and mirrors to me.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 9:55am:


I love how right wingers continuously try to spin the same crap and avoid addressing other points that are being raised:
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What do you mean, 'economic credibility'.  They just lack credibility

bridonta wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 1:26pm:


explains Abbott and his right loon sidekicks to a tee.