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Greens Making Big Gains ... INTERNATIONALLY
Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:04am

Greens sailing to power in German state

Sun Mar 27, 2011

BERLIN – Germany's anti-nuclear Greens on Sunday scored a remarkable victory over chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative party in a state election that had turned into a referendum on nuclear power in the wake of Japan's Fukushima disaster.

The Greens doubled their voter share in wealthy Baden-Wuerttemberg state and seemed poised to oust Merkel's Christian Democrats who held power there for almost six decades, according to preliminary results released by the state electoral commission.

The Greens are also set to win their first ever state governorship, the results showed.

"This is a day that has strongly changed the political landscape in Germany," party chairwoman Claudia Roth said in Berlin.

The Greens secured 24.2 percent of the vote, with the center-left Social Democrats down 2 percentage points at 23.1 percent. That secures them a narrow lead to form a coalition government with a combined 71 seats in the state legislature, the results showed.

"We have secured what amounts to a historic electoral victory," the Greens' local leader Winfried Kretschmann told party members in Stuttgart.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110327/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_elections

This is part of a GROWING movement - and AWARENESS - world-wide
Like their German affiliates, the AUSTRALIAN Greens are NOT going away
The movement is here for the "long haul"

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Greens Making Big Gains ... INTERNATIONALLY Reply #1 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:08am I wonder how long the loons will last once those germans no longer have reliable power to cook up their saurerkraut and bratwurst. Nothing more than a knee jerk reaction founded on fear.
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Reply #2 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:19am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:08am:

I wonder how long the loons will last once those germans no longer have reliable power to cook up their saurerkraut and bratwurst. Grin

Nothing more than a knee jerk reaction founded on fear.

So you support the fear of a new tax but ridicule the fear of a nuclear accident......I fail to see any logic in your argument???

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Reply #3 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:24am

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:04am:

Greens sailing to power in German state

Sun Mar 27, 2011

BERLIN – Germany's anti-nuclear Greens on Sunday scored a remarkable victory over chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative party in a state election that had turned into a referendum on nuclear power in the wake of Japan's Fukushima disaster.

The Greens doubled their voter share in wealthy Baden-Wuerttemberg state and seemed poised to oust Merkel's Christian Democrats who held power there for almost six decades, according to preliminary results released by the state electoral commission.

The Greens are also set to win their first ever state governorship, the results showed.

"This is a day that has strongly changed the political landscape in Germany," party chairwoman Claudia Roth said in Berlin.

The Greens secured 24.2 percent of the vote, with the center-left Social Democrats down 2 percentage points at 23.1 percent. That secures them a narrow lead to form a coalition government with a combined 71 seats in the state legislature, the results showed.

"We have secured what amounts to a historic electoral victory," the Greens' local leader Winfried Kretschmann told party members in Stuttgart.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110327/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_elections

This is part of a GROWING movement - and AWARENESS - world-wide
Like their German affiliates, the AUSTRALIAN Greens are NOT going away
The movement is here for the "long haul"

Oh good. The German's can screw themselves for us to watch and go 'thank god Australians were not that stupid'

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Reply #4 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:25am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:08am:

I wonder how long the loons will last once those germans no longer have reliable power to cook up their saurerkraut and bratwurst. Grin

Nothing more than a knee jerk reaction founded on fear.

So you support the fear of a new tax but ridicule the fear of a nuclear accident......I fail to see any logic in your argument???

WTF are you on about?

Nothing in my statement, or the very pretty initial post, mentions anything about any friggen tax.

Don't question my logic when your statement is neither cogent, rational or friggen logical.

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Reply #5 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:08am

They're Greens Bigol... expecting logic is a bit silly!

the best part is that buzzard now has to go OVERSEAS to see any Green successes. He needs reminding however that the Greens 'successes' in Germany are nothing more than gaining back the ground they lost last time when they suffered a major repudiation.

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Reply #6 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:17am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:08am:

They're Greens Bigol... expecting logic is a bit silly!

the best part is that buzzard now has to go OVERSEAS to see any Green successes. He needs reminding however that the Greens 'successes' in Germany are nothing more than gaining back the ground they lost last time when they suffered a major repudiation.

And only YOU, could read an INCREASE in the Greens' primary (as has been the pattern EVERY state and federal election) as a "dreadful result"

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Reply #7 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:23am

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:08am:

They're Greens Bigol... expecting logic is a bit silly!

the best part is that buzzard now has to go OVERSEAS to see any Green successes. He needs reminding however that the Greens 'successes' in Germany are nothing more than gaining back the ground they lost last time when they suffered a major repudiation.

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Merkel's party has held power in the region around Stuttgart — home to some 11 million people — since 1953 and the ballot was seen as the most important of Germany's seven state elections this year.

The prosperous southwestern region, home to carmakers Daimler AG, Porsche SE and software house SAP AG, was the only state where the same center-right coalition that governs Germany as a whole had to face state voters.

The Greens' success there was also partly explained by its opposition to a disputed railway project in Stuttgart, which the center-right government tried to push through despite widespread protests.

The results in Baden-Wuerttemberg also further weaken Merkel's coalition's stance in Germany's upper house of parliament, which represents the 16 states, increasingly forcing her to seek compromises to get major legislation passed.

Also voting Sunday was Rhineland-Palatinate state, where preliminary official results saw the Social Democrats losing their absolute majority, poised to form a coalition government with the triumphant Greens who more than trebled their vote.

Governor Kurt Beck's Social Democrats fell 9.9 percentage points to 35.7 percent, while the Greens rose from 4.6 percent to 15.4 percent.

The Christian Democrats are seen gaining 2.5 points to 35.3 percent. The Free Democrats fell below 5 percent and thus would no longer be in the state parliament, according to the preliminary results.

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Reply #8 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:32am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:08am:

I wonder how long the loons will last once those germans no longer have reliable power to cook up their saurerkraut and bratwurst. Grin

Nothing more than a knee jerk reaction founded on fear.

You've just encapsulated the entire manifesto of the current Federal Liberal Party.

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Reply #9 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 9:02am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:32am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 7:08am:

I wonder how long the loons will last once those germans no longer have reliable power to cook up their saurerkraut and bratwurst. Grin

Nothing more than a knee jerk reaction founded on fear.

You've just encapsulated the entire manifesto of the current Federal Liberal Party.

While i do agree with you on that statement, this isn't about the liberal party, this is about the boxhead greens.

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Reply #10 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 9:12am

Germans and Austrians have always been a bit that way.

I recall on my very first day living in Vienna being taken to task by a complete stranger for not separating my recycled rubbish in the correct bins.

This was 1996. The Austrians all rode on bikes and recycled near on everything.
To me and my UK colleague on a uni exchange it was a different world.
I told the lady in England it all goes in the same bin, she was appalled.

So the Greens always do well in these hippy kind of countries.

I could have brought up with this woman how her country produced Adolf Hitler and murdered 6m people because of their religion but I let it slide.....

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Reply #11 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 9:42am

Buzz has now abandoned all pretence of being a Labor supporter and has shifted his allegiance 100% to the party of the anti-semite Mayor of Marrickville.
Not surprising that that region in Germany has gone for the Greens, being home to a lingering pool of nazi sympathies. I believe it is where Visconti filmed his movie "The Damned" and the locals enjoyed the work as extras dressed in their SA brownshirt uniforms.
Buzz of course has shifted his support for the most practical of reasons, ie the Greens are the only party likely to give him a homosexual marriage certificate.

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bridonta Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 522	Re: Greens Making Big Gains ... INTERNATIONALLY Reply #13 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 12:16pm unlike the Green here in Australia worry about homosexual, illegal people in detention, carbon tax .. but the Green in Germany is not that extreme but smarter .. it worries about its people safety if expose to Nucleus .. and disasters in Japan have helped them with supports ..
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Reply #14 - Mar 31^st, 2011 at 1:02pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 8:08am:

They're Greens Bigol... expecting logic is a bit silly!

the best part is that buzzard now has to go OVERSEAS to see any Green successes. He needs reminding however that the Greens 'successes' in Germany are nothing more than gaining back the ground they lost last time when they suffered a major repudiation.

And only YOU, could read an INCREASE in the Greens' primary (as has been the pattern EVERY state and federal election) as a "dreadful result"

Complex analysis is clearly beyond you. But I might point out that during the time of the Liberals poll woes some 18months ago MY ANALYSIS of events predicted a resurgence of liberal polls (although not as fast as happened) and a significant problem for the decision-free labor govt. I was proven right while you were proven wrong. On that basis alone my prediction that the Greens have reached the zenith of their popularity is proving true. the fed election was their max and since then every election has had a result below that. You just dont liek analysis that disputes your love of all thigns Green. be it polls or even election results - everythign is rogue unless it supports what you believe.

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