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Mar 29th, 2011 at 7:16pm
 
The world turns and the Libs can't turn with it while Tony 'anti-Choreography' Abbott is at the steering wheel!

Gillard is stinging them with the anti-market forces tag and Ross Garnaut is supporting it with his assertion that party lines never dictated who was inclined to believe more in market forces than the next person.

Tony Abbott , of course, has not the know-how to deal with such efficiently weighty indirect attacks!

...the mining tax who-ha has gotten ordinary Australians backs-up by the gross misinformation campaigns paid for by the richies but no one can pretend that the voting population is'nt much smarter for it.

They now know how very cost efficient this was for the overseas investors interests and now people want a clever country.

...the Aussies want their NBN and they want the clever country the NBN promises.

They are heartily sick of these mega rich companies breathing poo breath at them so i wouldn't expect Tony Abbott has much more to go on when the carbon tax reveals itself to be less scary than he has tried so hard to make it look!!

Tony Abbott is sunk: he, and the Libs, tied themselves to public fear mongering for the sake of private profits and while it worked for awhile the world turns! It is now the 21st century!!

BYE BYE TONY ' ANTI-MARKET FORCES LIBERAL PARTY JOKE ' ABBOTT !!!

THE LIBERAL PARTY WON'T MISS YOU EITHER!
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 7:25pm
 
And you started a New Topic for that rant !!!!!!!!!
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"He who does not value life does not deserve it." -- Leonardo da Vinci&&&&
 
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Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 7:28pm
 
Fast broadband, slow debate as National Broadband Network legislation passes

    * From: AAP
    * March 28, 2011 6:35PM

    * MPs in no hurry with high-speed net debate
    * Parliament takes all day to consider NBN
    * Comes as deadline pushed back to 2020

THE federal government has squeezed two important broadband bills through the parliament after sweetening the deal for the rural independents.

It's promised to keep wholesale prices uniform whether customers live in the city or the bush and to analyse the impact to communities for any future policy change on technology.

The pledges helped sway the independents from siding with the coalition on certain amendments, ensuring the passage of two critical National Broadband Network (NBN) bills.

During a marathon session in an extra day of parliament, independent MPs Rob Oakeshott and Tony Windsor claimed the government's undertaking as a win for the regions.

"The NBN is potentially the greatest piece of regional infrastructure in this country," Mr Windsor said.

"This is one piece of infrastructure that actually negates distance as being a disadvantage."

The bills, relating to access arrangements and the dealings of NBN Co, should have passed last week, but were subject to a raft of amendments on Friday.

Lower house MPs were then recalled on today to give the changes the final tick-off, rather than heading off on what should of been their six-week autumn break.

But debate kicked off with a lengthy discussion about whether the amendments should even be considered or not, delaying talk about actual legislation for four hours.

The coalition then introduced its amendments, prompting accusations of hypocrisy for trying to change legislation that it ultimately opposes.

On a day of fiery debate, the coalition also accused the government of filibustering its own legislation as it worked to get the independents on side.

"They are having their arms twisted to change their position on their support for (coalition amendments)," opposition frontbencher Christopher Pyne said.

Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull commented to Mr Oakeshott as he walked into the chamber later in the debate that he looked good "for someone that's been water-boarded".

But he, Mr Windsor and fellow independent Bob Katter then helped to sink some of the coalition's four amendments, saying they were doing what was right for regional Australia.

Mr Katter blasted the opposition for not embracing a plan that will help deliver technological equality.

"They think we should wait for some science fiction fantasy to jump out from behind a bush, (but) we've got an offer on the table, and we're going to take it."

Under the agreement with the independents, the government has also vowed to undertake a community impact statement whenever it plans to change its technology policies.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy welcomed the passage of both bills, saying it was another historic step forward in the government's NBN plan.

Amendments agreed to by the Senate last week were also signed off today; one chunk being carried on the voices ahead of a vote on the second batch which was won 58 to 42.

Last week, the company building the $36 billion national broadband network was given permission to finish its project more than two years later than originally planned.

NBN Co in late 2010 flagged its intention to have its deadline pushed back from June 2018 to December 2020.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said the extra time was needed to connect an extra one million homes to super-fast broadband.

"The build has expanded," he told the Senate.

source: http://www.news.com.au/technology/fast-broadband-slow-debate-as-bickering-stalls-national-broadband-network-legislation/story-e6frfro0-1226029585692
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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is.  It wouldn't be there without the tax payer.  Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know....  (swaggy) *
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:28am
 
Democrates to become empowered through the conflict between the Liberals (Nationals) V the Unions.

Republicans to rise from the Independents V the ALP
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Reply #4 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 6:34pm
 
When is Tony Abbott going to even try and find an alternative plan to Labors NBN type vision!??!

He can't, so he won't obviously be bothering....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Bye bYe Tony!  Wink
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Reply #5 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 6:43pm
 
Democracy;what Democracy?

Take retiree: 1)
Worked for 45 years and paid taxes, but did not accumulate enough assets to be completely independent of the age-pension. For every dollar of extra income for him and his wife above $6,500, the couple loses $0.50 of age pension, and if their income exceeds $45,000 per annum, the couple will pay tax of $0.315 in the dollar including medicare levy, leaving them with an income of $0.185 from every dollar extra income. For the defined benefit income a 10% tax-offset applies if paid from an Australian super fund, but not if the income comes from an overseas fund.

Retiree 2)
Has accumulated assets of $1.5million and the assets are in a so-called taxed Self Managed Super Fund. To be very conservative, the assets are in a term deposit earning 7.0% income of $122,500 per annum and even if the retiree is single, he/she will not pay a cent of tax.
Now if the assets are in fully franked shares, like banks and return $100,000 worth of franked dividends, he/she will again pay no tax on the dividend, and the government will send him/her a cheque of $30,000 for the franking credits.

Retiree 3)
Is an ex-politician or highly paid public servant, in receipt of a defined benefit pension of $100,000, on which he/she will have to pay tax, but he/she gets a 10% tax offset, which equals %10,000 after reaching retirement age, but before retiring, the public servant can establish a SMSF and contribute into it extra with tax concessions if the $25,000 total for under fifty and $50,000, if over fifty is not exceeded and in addition he/she can contribute $150,000 from after tax income, and the earnings from the SMSF will only attract 15% tax, and when the person reaches the age of 60 even the income will be completely tax-free from the SMSF.

What Ken Henry should have recommended is, abolish all tax concessions for super,abolish the means test for the age pension so that even millionaires get the full pension, but then the retirees should pay the same tax as do the workers.

I have made submissions to the Ken Henry Tax review and the Jeremy Cooper Superannuation review.

I would also like to refer you to my website Hawilspoint “The Great Australian Super Fraud”

In the book “Unemployment forever or a Support Income System and Work For All”, by Allan McDonald, on page 142 (h) it is stated: Any means tested welfare system requires extensive and complex state control and regulation. Australia is slowly but surely moving towards the ultimate outcome of a means tested social welfare system-state control over finances, the savings, and the labours of the poorest in the community.

Have the politicians of Australia the know-how and will to change the tax and social system to be more egalitarian, or was the late Professor A.J.Marshall right when he wrote, as quoted in the book “Equality and Authority” by S Encel on page212: “Most Australian politicians, he wrote, aspire to parliamentary seats ‘to better their salary, to inflate their egos and feather their nests’.

John Pilger in his book “The new rulers of the world” wrote on page 175: Like Britain and the US, Australia is a single ideology state with two competing factions, discernible largely by the personalities of their politicians. The difference between Howard’s conservative coalition and the opposition Labor Party is that Howards policies are not veiled. The Labor governments of the 1980s and early 1990s oversaw the greatest distribution of wealth in the country’s history: from bottom to top. They were Thatcherite and Reganite in all but name. Indeed, Tony Blair described then Prime Minister Paul Keating as his
‘inspiration’.
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