longweekend58 wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 7:02am:


More absolutely bloody bulldust from the Liberal fanboys.

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False. The original 43 billion estimate has actually been revised down to 36 billion.
Lucky it was not the Libs doing this, or they would be claiming their brilliant economic management has just saved 7 billion, lol.

Cost overruns, and annual losses?
A bit more Liberal crystal ball gazing at work.
The NBN management has so far impressed with very strong business planning, and very efficient management of the project, so condemning them for things that have not occurred is just more Liberal scare tactics at work.

Despite your protestations to the opposite, the NBN will provide you with many things you have never had before Longy, the option to access high speeds, if you so desire, is but one.

Please cite your source for that statistic, 85% of Australians already have access to the 12Mbps up, 1Mbps down, minimum service being offered by the NBN, because I do not believe you, and you must admit your track record of dishonesty about this issue has been appalling.

Sprint provided a graph showing 52% of aussies as having access to broadband, which is nowhere near the bulldust 85% he mentioned.

The other thing they fail to ever mention is that so much of the current
"High Speed" [sic] Broadband that they pronounce that so many supposedly already have, is actually the old 1.5 Mbps speeds that those not close to an exchange, or on an exchange with no dslam, or one with no ports open, can get access to.
Now that is more than ten times slower than the base plan the NBN will be offering, and there are even people on rims who cannot even get those paltry 1mbps or lower speeds now.

Then you add all the rural folk who currently get totally left out of any consideration at all by the Libs and their supporters, but which the NBN has not forgotten about, and will get access to decent, affordable internet, for the first time ever, and for generations to come.

So all aussies can look forward to a supremely fast, efficient, reliable, long lasting, and fair telecommunications system, and the current services that offers, as well as the future services it will enable.
That all adds up to a great and forward thinking national infrastructure investment.

Unless you are a rusted on Liberal fanboy desperate to believe any lie from the extreme right, designed to create confusion and promote fear, then it is hard to actually find a negative to say about the NBN.

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the nbn have just released 43 pages of "amendments".
a sign of very poor management.
they have kept details secret.

what benefits will a nbn give - exactly.

as i repeatred, the graph is 4 years old and showing huge growth.

grow up, answer the questions or i will call you lisa2

I would rather see you put up a CBA which shows how this project will pay back the costs.

Because without it, it looks like a socialist programme to me of one set of people paying for something they don't need and will be used by others.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 1:17pm:


I agree with your government stats, they say 52% of aussies with broadband access.
YOU are the one just making it up as you go from that point.

Try this exercise, go back and get stats from the golden age of buggy making, they may have had a production growth of say, 25 % two years in a row, now just keep adding those figures up and you have statistically proven there are 17 billion, 487 million, and 73 buggies being made this year.

You claim 80% of aussies have high speed broadband now, I do not believe you, so provide a link to where you got that statistic.
Extrapolating on previous growth rates will not cut it, we need a real statistic please.

You also claim most aussie streets already have fibre in them, another laughably stupid lie for which I would love to see your source of information please.

You anti-NBN nuts are getting as loopy as the freaky conspirinuts around here.

52 %  was 4 years ago.
what's your guess  for today lisa2 ??

pay tv is run via fibre.
there is pay tv or broadband net in most streets.