Foolosophy wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:29pm:


The Level 7 applies to the combined incident. The individual reactors remain at Level 5 each.

It's  all very well for Greenpeace to do their usual mouth frothing, but what could they have differently if teh INES classification had been higher? The emergency response is the same for a radiological incident regardless of INES level.  These INES levels are usually applied well after the incident, and the Level 7 recently announced on the combined incident is preliminary anyway.

Greenpeace just want to worry as many people as possible and cause even more anguish.  

Each incremental increase in level equates to a 10 fold increase in radiological threat. THe difference between level 7 and level 5 is 100 fold in severity.

To suggest that individual reactors are still at level 5, highlights a total lack of understanding of the situation.

Greenpeace is actually being responsible in warming people as to the real dangers. We know that TEPCO and the Japanese Authorities have engaged in a cover up of the real severity of this radialogical incident. (mitigate their legal and financial responsibilities)

Professor Chris Busby and Professor Yablokov (world experts on the health risks of radiation - indcluding the INTERNAL EMITTERS that many wish to ignore) have estimated the number of additional cancers due to Fukushima incident.

200km radius around Fukushima: 200,000 to 400,000 ADDITIONAL cancers in the next 10 years

And this is an estimate JUST for the radiation that has been released SO FAR. Remember, the radiation has still not been contained as we speak.

The figure also rises when you project the additional cancer rate out to 50 years.

What TEPCO, Japanese Authorites and international nuclear bodies are doing is nothing short of criminal. And they will be held to account when cancer sufferers sue them  

mantra wrote on Apr 14^th, 2011 at 9:15am:


Well that's not borne out by the monitoring results. Since March 31 there has been a steady decline in radiation levels.

Of course, the area around the plant itself may be totally cut off for as many as 20 years, but there have been no mass casualties as there were at Chernobyl.

The general public don't understand things like risk and dose.

muso wrote on Apr 14^th, 2011 at 9:34am:


And how many people died due to Chernobyl? (LOL)

You are elitist and arrogant to the nth degree. The public understands the risks of radiation very well. The problem arises when the propagandists and apologists spread lies and missinformation concerning things like INTERNAL emitters (something you avoid in here I see muso).

This is why TEPCO and the puppets are only referring to Iodine131 and on occassions cesium137 (which can be lethal on their own).

And we all know why these radionuclides are being formed and released dont we muso?

And we all know the other radionuclides that accompany these - AND are being released as we speak.

dont we muso

Foolosophy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2011 at 10:14am:


Well I do, but you obviously don't even understand the concept of risk,and you fail to grasp the basics of mobility of the said radionuclides. Mobility is the key here.

Just because a reactor produces certain radionuclides doesn't imply that they are mobile.

At Chernobyl, the reactor core blew up. There was an extended fire in the core exarcerbated by the loss of graphite.

Those liquidators who actually survived reported that only 10-15 percent of the original reactor fuel was still present after the explosion. That's an enormous loss to the environment, and it was all over land.  

The people who are stating that there has been an over-reaction to the Fukushima disaster are not all in the nuclear industry.

400,000 is a ridiculously high figure. I don't know which part of their anatomy they drew that from, but the total population of Fukushima Prefecture is around 3 million.

Morbidity risk from beta and gamma radiation has been reported as 8×10-2 risk per sievert (ISCRS). The figure of 400,000 is roughly 13% of the population of Fukushima before the Earthquake/ Tsunami.  This is clearly nonsense.

I am not an apologist for the nuclear industry, but I won't stand by when I see people quote ridiculous fictions.

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No where near the numbers you 'claim'

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And again, not even close to what you(or Greenpeace) 'predict'

April 14 (Bloomberg) -- Tokyo Electric Power Co. will move backup generators at its crippled nuclear plant to higher ground away from the sea to ensure cooling systems aren’t disrupted by future tsunamis, as aftershocks rattle Japan.

“Emergency diesel-powered generators will be moved to higher ground, and work for connecting them into the power distribution unit will be carried out around April 19,” Takeo Iwamoto, a spokesman for the utility known as Tepco, said in Tokyo today.

They will be placed 20 meters (66 feet) above sea level, double the current height,

according to the company.

The Fukushima station is yet to stabilize and the reactors must be kept cool to prevent the crisis from deteriorating, Gregory Jaczko, chairman of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said at a Senate hearing April 12.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ajxHFcflsiio&pos=9
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I think it may have been a good idea to have put the whole plant out of harms way or at least built the sea walls higher than recorded Tsunami's & upgraded them after subsequent higher Tsunami's, such as the Boxing Day Tsunami.

That said, I am struggling with the description in this article, which says, the backup generators will be placed at 20 meters (66 feet) above sea level, double the current height?

The reason I am struggling is that these backup generators have previously been said to be located in the reactor basements and I can nnot see how the reactor basements would be 10m above sea level?

Finally, I wonder what is happening at all other Japanese Nuclear plants, are the sea walls being upgraded to 20M and are the back up generators being shifted up & out of basements?

2010 Recommendations of the ECRR
The Health Effects of Exposure to Low Doses of Ionizing RadiationRegulators' Edition


This important report has now been made available FREE due to the Fukushima disaster (normally 75 pounds)

It is about 250 pages and can be downloaded free:

http://www.euradcom.org/