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Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:01pm
 
I'm certain that the recent earthquake, Tsunami & the subsequent damage to the Fukushima Nuclear power plant, will have far reaching consequences, both in Japan & Globally.

This thread is a search for all of the issues arising from these events, including purely environmental issues, but also the human consequences of these events.

To start the ball rolling, I have just come accross the following article, which provides one insight

The Japanese fuel crisis

One consequence of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami that is not receiving as much press as the ongoing struggle to cool the damaged reactors, but which continues to influence more people, is the lack of fuel.

Nine of the Japanese refineries were damaged and put out of action, and this dropped the amount of fuel being refined from 4,500,000 bd down to 3,100,000 bd.

The lack of fuel for transportation affects not only those in the disaster area, but also those away from it, since food and fuel itself depend on transport to move it to customers around the country.

"What we urgently need now is fuel, heavy and light oil, water and food. More than anything else, we need fuel because we can't do anything without it. We can't stay warm or work the water pumps," said Masao Hara, the mayor of Koriyama city, in Fukushima prefecture.

Fuel needs are not just gasoline and diesel for vehicles. With the bitter cold that remains over much of the north of Japan, and no electric power, kerosene is also needed for heating. For domestic heating many homes rely on kerosene stoves to heat individual rooms in use, rather than using central heating. Stocks had been falling before the earthquake, due to the severe winter this year. And with stocks being sent to help refugees, there are now shortages in other parts of Japan.

While there are some indications that the nuclear problems may be being brought under control, the problems of fuel shortage and the cascading problem of food, fuel, and other resource distribution that it brings with it are likely to remain in Japan for several weeks as the crisis continues.

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So, not only has electrical power been possibly permanently knocked at the Fukushima plant by this event, but nearly one third of Japans fuel supply capacity has also been knocked out by the same event and that capacity will take a lot longer than a few weeks to sort out.

With Nuclear power likely to be greatly reduced, there are now suggestions of building new Fossil Fuel powered stations, but many of these will have long gestation periods and that process may be further exacerbated by the need to rebuild a great deal of infrastructure, such as roads & ports.

In addition, if Japan does shift further away from Nuclear power and closer to Fossil Fuels, then the Global costs of Oil, Coal & Gas, will undertake a further substantial rise, as a result of that increasing Demand, particularly at a time when the Supply of Oil & Coal is going to be in Decline!

As this event recedes and, in particular, the final outcomes on the Fukushima power plant are realised, attention will shift to the future of what to do with the Fukushima plant & other Japanese reactors.

The outcome of those discussions will reverberate around not only Japan, but the entire world!

That said and by way of caution, in all of those discussions we should bear in mind that we are in a period of expanding Demand, which is likely to continue for some time yet, barring a complete breakdown in Global Economics.

We are also in a period, where the Supply of sources of Energy, for Power & Fuels is set to contract and that contraction when set against a greater Demand will drive Energy Prices thru the roof, thereby drastically affecting the Global Economy.

So, in the short to medium term, whether we like it or not, whether we want it or not, Nuclear power may well be something we may find impossible to discard?    

That is but one of the consequences of the recent Japanese earthquake, Tsunami & Fukushima Nuclear site events, there are many more, what's yours?
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Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:28pm
 
The dangerous aspect of the Fukushima nucleat power plant facility is that there are 6 reactors and should one of these reactors spiral out of control triggering a major blast then the others are essentially lost too.

The total amount of radioactive material in the entire facility is not worth thinking about (makes Chernobyl appear like a baby).

The other issue is the total lack of knowledge concerning the condition of the reactors internal mechanisms and fuel status as well as the systems reliability of instrumentation and measurements.

Hope that they can clean up the site by the 2096 bicentenial Olympiad
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:13pm
 


It's really hard to imagine any one substance willingly in use by humans that could take months to be artificially cooled and around 15 years to be mostly cleaned up after a single industrial accident...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

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The Three Mile Island accident was a partial core nuclear meltdown  in Unit 2 (a pressurized water reactor manufactured by Babcock & Wilcox) of the Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania near Harrisburg, United States in 1979.

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The accident began at 4 a.m. on Wednesday, March 28, 1979...

Cleanup

Three Mile Island Unit 2 was too badly damaged and contaminated to resume operations; the reactor was gradually deactivated and permanently closed. TMI-2 had been online only thirteen months but now had a ruined reactor vessel and a containment building that was unsafe to walk in.

Cleanup started in August 1979 and officially ended in December 1993, with a total cleanup cost of about $1 billion.[59]

Initially, efforts focused on the cleanup and decontamination of the site, especially the defueling of the damaged reactor. Starting in 1985, almost 100 short tons (91 t) of radioactive fuel were removed from the site.

The first major phase of the cleanup was completed in 1990, when workers finished shipping 150 tons of radioactive wreckage to Idaho for storage at the Department of Energy's National Engineering Laboratory.

However, the contaminated cooling water that leaked into the containment building had seeped into the building's concrete, leaving the radioactive residue impractical to remove.

In 1988, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission announced that, although it was possible to further decontaminate the Unit 2 site, the remaining radioactivity had been sufficiently contained as to pose no threat to public health and safety. Accordingly, further cleanup efforts were deferred to allow for decay of the radiation levels and to take advantage of the potential economic benefits of retiring both Unit 1 and Unit 2 together.[60]




3 decades later, and the reactor site still hasn't been fully cleaned up...


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Reply #3 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:02am
 
....although there are some potentially catastrophic scenarios that can eventuate at the Fukushima nuclear power facility, one thing that cant occur is a nuclear explosion - the fuel is only enriched to about 3% so a run away nuclear chain reaction cannot occur.

However, this doesn't mean that we cannot get a total meltdown and breach of the both containment vessels or structures which would release tremendous amounts of lethal radiation into the environment.

I hope the brave workers of the plant are able to limit any further damage and overheating and get to a stage where the reactors are at least stable and not getting any worse.

Then at least the Japanese can focus their efforts over the next 50 or 60 years to clean up decontaminate (if at all possible) the Fukushima site.

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Reply #4 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:17am
 
Foolosophy wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 10:28pm:
The total amount of radioactive material in the entire facility is not worth thinking about (makes Chernobyl appear like a baby).


Yes, but the Chernobyl accident was much more serious. The design was such that when the building blew up, the reactor core was visible from the air, and the helicopter crews reported seeing the bright light from the exposed fuel rods, just before they died. (most of them). They did not manage to retract the control rods at Chernobyl. I've read just about every report that came out of Chernobyl. It was a sobering example of what can go wrong with bad management. 

The question is that of cleanup of the area around Fukushima.  The most badly contaminated area is about 20-30km North of the plant.  The main issue will be Cs isotopes. Iodine is more of a problem for the first month or so, and it is relatively volatile anyway (for a solid).

It's unlikely that either Uranium or Plutonium will be found any distance from the plant, or even outside the immediate plant area.
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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:20am
 
Equitist wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:13pm:
3 decades later, and the reactor site still hasn't been fully cleaned up...




On the counter side, it is Europe's most successful wildlife sanctuary, and the animals are in very good health. Had it not been for Chernobyl, at least one species would have gone extinct. Ironically the area around Pripyat has one of the healthiest ecosystems in Europe.
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:22am
 
Equitist wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:13pm:
It's really hard to imagine any one substance willingly in use by humans that could take months to be artificially cooled and around 15 years to be mostly cleaned up after a single industrial accident...



I can imagine emissions of carbon dioxide killing more people over the next 200 years than all the radioactive accidents in history.

Foolosophy, which do you think has the most serious far reaching consequences?

Fukushima or the burning of fossil fuels.
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Reply #7 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:43pm
 
muso wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 8:22am:
Equitist wrote on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 11:13pm:
It's really hard to imagine any one substance willingly in use by humans that could take months to be artificially cooled and around 15 years to be mostly cleaned up after a single industrial accident...



I can imagine emissions of carbon dioxide killing more people over the next 200 years than all the radioactive accidents in history.

Foolosophy, which do you think has the most serious far reaching consequences?

Fukushima or the burning of fossil fuels.


If we had the option, then neither!

But, due to some "magnificent planning"?, it's likely we won't have the option, so we will probably get both for some time yet!

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Reply #8 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:57pm
 
Nuclear Cleanup Faces Key Power Test as Quakes Rattle Fukushima


March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Early morning earthquakes rattled Japan’s crippled nuclear plant as engineers restored lighting at a control room and endeavored to connect power cables needed to cool the reactors.

Four quakes of 5-magnitude or greater struck eastern Honshu, Japan, within an hour starting at 7:12 a.m. local time, according to the U.S. Geological Survey website. There was no impact on the Fukushima Dai-Ichi plant itself, the Japan Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said in a statement.

Restoring power is key to ending the crisis at four unstable reactors that have leaked radiation into the ocean and forced the government to evacuate thousands of local residents.

Lights are on in the control room at the No. 3 reactor and there is some lighting working at No. 4, the company said today. Reactors No. 5 and 6 are already supplied with electricity.

“They’ve made considerable progress bringing equipment to the plant and restoring power,” David Lochbaum, director of nuclear safety at the Cambridge, Massachusetts-based Union of Concerned Scientists, said on a conference call with reporters. “But they’re not out of the woods yet. They are working with razor-thin margins.”

Decaying Fuel Rods
Seventy percent of the fuel rods at the No. 1 reactor may be damaged and 33 percent at the No. 2 unit, Tokyo Electric said on March 16.

The first four reactors at Fukushima will likely have to be decommissioned after being damaged by seawater brought in to keep them cool, Lochbaum said. It’s unclear whether reactors No. 5 and 6 will be able to operate again, he said.

“On March 10 they had a multibillion-dollar asset that generated a lot of electricity,” Lochbaum said. “On March 11 they had a multibillion-dollar liability that’s going to cost a lot to clean up.”

Food Screening
Five kinds of radioactive materials released by damaged fuel rods were detected in the sea, including iodine-131, cesium-134 and cobalt, according to Tokyo Electric. Radiation in food is measured in Becquerel, a gauge of the strength of radioactivity in those materials. The prescribed safe limit for I-131 in vegetables is set at 2,000 Becquerel (Bq) per kilogram and 500 Bq/kg for radioactive cesium.

Screening food for radiation is being stepped up as Japan seeks to calm a population that eats more fish than any other nation except China. Shih-Yew Chen, a researcher at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois, said the levels found so far in milk and vegetables could cause a slight increase in the number of cancer cases.

Contaminated Vegetables
Prime Minister Naoto Kan ordered a halt to shipments of leafy vegetables from Fukushima prefecture, his office said today. He also stopped shipments of milk and parsley from neighboring Ibaraki.

The health ministry earlier advised against eating leafy vegetables, broccoli and cauliflower produced near the damaged nuclear power plant. People eating vegetables from Fukushima for the past 10 days will have ingested half of the natural level of a year’s worth of radiation, the ministry said in a statement.


The death toll from Japan’s worst postwar disaster climbed to 9,199 as of 11 p.m. yesterday, with 13,786 people missing, according to the National Police Agency in Tokyo.

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I wonder where the veges, milk etc was shipped to, between the quake date & yesterday?

Were those consumers told prior to consuming the products or have those consumers been told, yet?
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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 1:50pm
 
Japan Mulls Postwar-Style Reconstruction Agency, Adds Cash


March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Japan may set up a reconstruction agency to oversee earthquake repairs, while data showed the central bank pumped record liquidity into lenders, as the nation grappled with its worst disaster since World War II.

Policy makers are girding for a contraction in gross domestic product that may be as deep as an annualized 12 percent in the second quarter, according to Morgan Stanley MUFG Securities Co.

The Bank of Japan last week said that while the economy was coming out of a deceleration, production may drop and corporate and household sentiment may worsen after the disaster.

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Future assessments will need to address damage to much of the northeast’s economy, and the disruptions to electricity and distribution systems that’s spread south to Tokyo and beyond. Toyota Motor Corp. said yesterday it will halt car assembly in Japan through March 26. Sony Corp. said it shut five more plants.

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It is probably a little early to be predicting any final cost of this disaster, but US1 Trillion, combined Public & Private is certainly in play.

To out that into an Australian perspective, for OZ in 2011 th GDP is expected to be around $1.3 Trillion, the Australian Federal government Revenue at about $350 Billion & Expenditure at $350 billion.

So, this Japanese event will not be small change and given they were already running a Debt to GDP ratio of over 200%, with their Baby Boomer Bust in full swing, it really will be a tough time ahead for Japan!
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Reply #10 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 2:19pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 12:57pm:
The health ministry earlier advised against eating leafy vegetables, broccoli and cauliflower produced near the damaged nuclear power plant. People eating vegetables from Fukushima for the past 10 days will have ingested half of the natural level of a year’s worth of radiation, the ministry said in a statement.[/color]

The death toll from Japan’s worst postwar disaster climbed to 9,199 as of 11 p.m. yesterday, with 13,786 people missing, according to the National Police Agency in Tokyo.

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I wonder where the veges, milk etc was shipped to, between the quake date & yesterday?

Were those consumers told prior to consuming the products or have those consumers been told, yet?


On ABC National this morning they had several crates of spinach from Ibaraki prefecture at the main vegetable market in Tokyo. Nobody would buy them.

To put the highlighted section in perspective, the natural background radiation in Japan is 0.1-0.3 uSv/hr which corresponds to a dose over 10 days of 72uSv. Over a Year, the total natural dose is 0.8- 2.6mSv.

Now half of that is roughly 1mSv. Dividing that by 240 hours gives us 4uSv /hr. If I was faced with the choice of eating that spinach or starving, I would carefully wash the spinach, since most of the Cesium will be in the form of Cesium carbonate dust on the leaves. I would then cook it with spices and paneer (Indian cottage cheese) and serve it with some freshly prepared biryani(which is coincidentally what I'm making tonight) , comfortable in the fact that  my dose was significantly less than 1/10 of the radioactive dose rate of the average inhabitant of La Paz, Bolivia or Denver Colorado, and considerably less than the average intercontinental frequent flyer.  

Incidentally, the radioactive dose from sleeping next to a human for 8 hours every night is around 0.02 mSv/yr, so that's relatively safe too.  

The concern of course is pockets of higher concentration in the vegetables, but I'd still prepare them the same way and eat them if they were ten times that dose rate.

By the way, the other element not mentioned so far is Strontium 90. After a month or so, Cs-137 and Strontium-90 will be the major contaminants. Cs-137 is a gamma emitter and Sr -90 is a beta emitter. The worst form of radiation for ingestion or inhalation is alpha particle radiation by a factor of 20.
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Reply #11 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 4:53pm
 
I saw Ziggy Sikowski and ANdrew Bolt having lunch today, dining away on Japanese Sushi and imported Fava beans and spinach rolls
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In the 1950's an Australian researcher linked strontium-90 build up in children's bones with surface testing of nuclear weapons. (the difficulty he had was generating enough data and from chidlrens bone samples)

His research was squashed and ridiculed by the power interests that wished to continue testing their nukes.

His contention turned out to be true and lead to a treaty that banned surface testing of nuclear weapons in the early 1960's

So if you were born before this period, the likelyhood is that you have a certain amount of Strontium-90 within your bone structure.

The global Strontium-90 levels began to rapidly decay after the treaty was signed by all nations possessing nuclear weapons.

*and Strontium-90 has a very efficient way of getting into the food chain via all sorts of avenues including milk and fruit etc
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Reply #12 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 4:55pm
 
The worst conseuqence is that we now have to listen to nuffies saying that this non-meltdown is somehow 'proof' that nuclear power is unviable in australia. 

Not too many 9.0 earthquakes or 40 year old reactors in australia is there?
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Reply #13 - Mar 23rd, 2011 at 5:22pm
 
... wrote on Mar 23rd, 2011 at 4:55pm:
The worst conseuqence is that we now have to listen to nuffies saying that this non-meltdown is somehow 'proof' that nuclear power is unviable in australia.  

Not too many 9.0 earthquakes or 40 year old reactors in australia is there?


But I am sure you will eventually get a terrorist in an aeroplane or a disgruntled plant operator that just got divorced, or some UNFORSEEN eventuality, or a tsunami in the pacific hitting the eastern Asutralian coastline (where we will obviously locate out nuclear plants). An asteroid hitting the pacific - that is on the cards anyway - a matter of time.

Nuclear: EXPENSIVE, FILTHY, TOXIC, UNSAFE - INSANE OPTION

I wonder if the Japanese will be able to clean up the Fukushima Nuclear waste dump site by the bicentenial Olympiad in 2096

Maybe by then the land of the silly (ASutralia) will accept a few pennies from the worlds SMART countrues so that we can turn our back yard into a nuclear waste storage facility. We could take the 60 tonnes/reactor of Fukushima waste and store it here?

The genius of the Australian mentality is known around the world - I am sure that it will be exploited in some way for a few sheckles

U-235 half life is only a mere 700 million years
U-238 half life is only a mere 4.5 billion years
Plutonium has a half life of only 24,000 years

No problem at all with these timeframes. Very cheap and safe option nuclear isnt it folks (for clowns maybe)
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see what I mean?
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