Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 10:44pm:




You're confusing them with facts!

How many asylum seekers come in on Fraser, Hawke and Keating watch and got compensation.

The spike in Asylum Seekers claming compensation started on howard watch, so ask yourself why that is.

bridonta wrote on Mar 20^th, 2011 at 12:44am:



go and check your history and see how asylum seekers got here during the Fraser, Hawke and Keating years.

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no need to check mate, I have been living in Darwin for a while .. there was East Timor refugees came over and also few Vietnamese refugees lost their ways arriving in Darwin by boats in 78-79 .. but majority of them were in camps around south east Asia .. from HOng kong, Thailand, malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Philippines .. they waited patiently for all processing no matter how long .. and they didn't mind any countries they were allowed to be accepted .. and you know what ?? why the east timor people don't want any processing centers in their countries because they were refugees themselves and they know about true and fake ..

It seems to me that as usual, those on the far right seem to take an almost unimaginably simplistic interpretation onto any event they focus on, and while they can often fairly accuse those on the left, of looking through the world through rose coloured glasses, I have to say that the black and white view they have of things is at least, if not more, distorted than even the most idealistic leftie.

They seem oblivious to the fact that the number of people seeking refuge, is not static, but fluid, number, and it changes with the circumstances of the day.
It is almost always a reflection of the massive trauma associated with either war, or massive political unrest where concerns about safety are a massive factor, or in the aftermath of such a conflict, when the society they had been a part of has been so totally disrupted, or destroyed, that to stay on means suffering terrible deprivations, while to seek asylum means hope.

While countries can make themselves less attractive destinations for such desperate asylum seekers, to do so they have to implement policies that are so cruel that they make the idea of attempting to gain asylum there, a worse choice than suffering the depredations of waiting in a refugee camp for years.

So just comparing statistics between one governments period in office, and another, can never tell you the whole story, and those who make that attempt are very often the same ones who will advocate we adopt far crueler, less humane policies, for dealing with asylum seekers, because in their black and white world, they do not even think of them as people, just as a problem, to try and palm off onto somebody else.
I prefer my rose coloured view of the world, if the alternative requires dehumanising those in such very real need.

well i did mention about they lost their ways and a few boats had arrived .. at that time they didn't have the GPS or mobile phones like the law breakers on Xmas Island .. and not many many of their skippers have the skills or knowledges to travel long distance .. and many of them were sinking and got lost on the sea ..

why don't you go and ask his parents then .. then you might have some knowledges from a comedian .. i bet at that time not many of them have any knowledges about where Australia was ... and all they know were escaping the commies regime and they hope to go to the USA more than anywhere else .. but bw the ALP under Hawke and Keating are so much differences like we're having now .. and you know who the biggest liar of all you have been support and gave respect to ..