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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #30 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:57pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:51pm:

Maybe I should go live in Zimbabwe and call them Rhodesians Roll Eyes

Or Sri Lanka and call it Ceylon

Or Myanmar and call it Burma

and other nations with Anglocised names.

Even Anglophiled Wikipedia calls Nippon "a word used for Japan" Roll Eyes

>>> I think i'll keep calling a Spade a Spade.

No-one is claiming that "Nihon " and its variant "Nippon" is not the name of Japan in the japanese language.

However the suffix "ese" is english. The english word for japan is JAPAN.

therefore the english term for people who live in japan is "japanese".

If you really want to call the japanese people what they call themselves the call them "Nihonjin".

Not "nipponese" and NEVER "nips"

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Reply #31 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:59pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.

"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"

Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan.
So whats the problem honky?

So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips".

Err no...but I don't find abbreviations 'offensive'. Should I be as precious as you and claim that being called an 'aussie' is offensive?

Oh no not this old chestnut.

It's not about "abbreviations" or about nicknames for nationalities.

It's about OFFENSIVE nicknames.

Do some research humpty.

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Reply #33 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:04pm

I 'personally' agree with you upon the word "Nihon" as it does seem the most middle-classed or common.
I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong - but I am right to some degree.
In fact, it looks like we might be BOTH WRONG (don't make a right).

Well then it appears so 'edu-ma-cation' is in session for all of us.
Now will someone please change those silly Atlas's to project the rightful names of nations and peoples.

...and please don't call me an "Aussie" you RACISTS!!!
I think the people of Nippon, I mean Nihonjin
need to get tougher skin though and HTFU !
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Reply #34 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:04pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:01pm:

I promise to do some research, if you promise to harden up and stop parading moral superiority by pretending to find offense in everything, especially things that don't apply to you.

Deal?

Sorry to disappoint you but I dont find offense in everything.

Just offensive things.

"Nips" is offensive.

Full stop.

No matter what you thought .

No matter what you think when you use the word.

It's offensive.

Oh and by the way , if you dont use offensive racist terms then that automatically makes you morally superior to the people who do.

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Reply #35 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips.

In the spirit of feigned offense, I hereby declare that I find being referred to as 'caucasian' HIGHLY offensive. I've never even been to caucasia.....

Personally, I think if someone is so precious as to be offended by something so benign, I don't really give a toss what they think.

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Reply #36 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm

Hold on.
You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs)
then condemn us here in Australia
-> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like
"Good Day" to "G'day", etc
for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect')
...to Nips.

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Reply #37 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:10pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips.

In the spirit of feigned offense, I hereby declare that I find being referred to as 'caucasian' HIGHLY offensive. I've never even been to caucasia.....

Personally, I think if someone is so precious as to be offended by something so benign, I don't really give a toss what they think.

Non sequitur.

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Reply #38 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Hold on.
You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs)
then condemn us here in Australia
-> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like
"Good Day" to "G'day", etc
for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect')
...to Nips.

Oh for buggers sake.

It isnt about abbreviations.

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Honouring Japanese people Reply #39 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm Where's Soren and his collection of World Maps that show the true/correct/appropriate 'National' titles free of Anglo/Westernised bias and ignorance?
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Honouring Japanese people Reply #40 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:15pm Its amazing how many Fair, Light & Pale skinned Rangas, Blueys and Ockers get called 'White' too. Please don't call me Causcasian, I find that offensive and I've never been to Caucasia anyway = Me thinks DarkHall67 is one of those people who calls Oceania here as Australasia too (just to be Americanly correct).
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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #41 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:16pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips.

.

Yeah its a bad character flaw of mine.

I get offended when i hear other people (not myself) being referred to as "n1ggers" , "spades" "spicks" "abos" "c0ons" etc

If only there was some sort of program i could follow to cure me of this malady and make me a better person.

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Reply #42 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:18pm

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Hold on.
You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs)
then condemn us here in Australia
-> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like
"Good Day" to "G'day", etc
for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect')
...to Nips.

Oh for buggers sake.

It isnt about abbreviations.

Nor is it about nips finding offense in the word 'nip'
What it's REALLY about is a fella claiming moral high ground by speaking out for those poor, inferior nipponese fellas, who need their great white hope to stick up for them.

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #43 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:21pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Hold on.
You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs)
then condemn us here in Australia
-> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like
"Good Day" to "G'day", etc
for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect')
...to Nips.

Oh for buggers sake.

It isnt about abbreviations.

Nor is it about nips finding offense in the word 'nip'
What it's REALLY about is a fella claiming moral high ground by speaking out for those poor, inferior nipponese fellas, who need their great white hope to stick up for them.

Yeah its a bad character flaw of mine.

I get offended when i hear other people (not myself) being referred to as "n1ggers" , "spades" "spicks" "abos" "c0ons" etc

If only there was some sort of program i could follow to cure me of this malady and make me a better person.

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Reply #44 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:24pm

Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67
take us 'out of context'
when we use those words.

Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'coon' joke.
The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult.
The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise.

So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made.
So sticks and stones Darkhall67,
but we are more closer to the truth
here in Australia
than you are there in Nippon.
Cool

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