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Reply #15 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:09pm

Its amazing how many people call me a Racist for this,
not that I mention anything about their skin colour or anything else racially relating to them.
I would think a word like 'Culturalist' might be more apt,
though I know I'm not that either.

I guess ignorant Western Imperialists like Darkhall67
- you know, they are like the USA -> the one of only two nations on the planet still practicing Maths in the Imperial system rather than the more International and Global 'Metric' system. (no wonder the USA economy is in the shi t again.)

Nippon/Nipponese: is the highest standard of description that the people of Nippon use.
Nihon/Nihonese: is the more casual expression.

Japan/Japanese: is another Western mis-use of description, somewhat arrogant in their continual use of the word. No wonder the Nipponese hardly pay attention to what the Western world has to say. But who would if your name was Dave and someone calls you Shirley. Roll Eyes

As for the word "Nip", besides the fact its "how you use the word" rather than the word itself. Its like saying nobody is allowed to call 'Australians' "Aussies" or New Zealanders "Kiwis".

Dare I even mention that the West Africans 'invented' the concept of Slavery, especially out of two nations like Niger & Nigeria
- eh black person? <<<edit: that was meant to be "eh Nig ger"
Or that the Boers reffered to Kaffers because there really was a place called Khafferia that just happened to come up with Coffee as in Caffeine.

Me thinks DarkHall67 is nothing but an ignorant BULLY from archaic Western Imperialism.
...also know as a TWAT.
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He probably read Australian Newspapers that spell things like Jail, rather than Gaol. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #17 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:18pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:09pm:

Its amazing how many people call me a Racist for this,
not that I mention anything about their skin colour or anything else racially relating to them.
I would think a word like 'Culturalist' might be more apt,
though I know I'm not that either.

I guess ignorant Western Imperialists like Darkhall67
- you know, they are like the USA -> the one of only two nations on the planet still practicing Maths in the Imperial system rather than the more International and Global 'Metric' system. (no wonder the USA economy is in the shi t again.)

Nippon/Nipponese: is the highest standard of description that the people of Nippon use.
Nihon/Nihonese: is the more casual expression.

Japan/Japanese: is another Western mis-use of description, somewhat arrogant in their continual use of the word. No wonder the Nipponese hardly pay attention to what the Western world has to say. But who would if your name was Dave and someone calls you Shirley. Roll Eyes

As for the word "Nip", besides the fact its "how you use the word" rather than the word itself. Its like saying nobody is allowed to call 'Australians' "Aussies" or New Zealanders "Kiwis".

Dare I even mention that the West Africans 'invented' the concept of Slavery, especially out of two nations like Niger & Nigeria
- eh black person?
Or that the Boers reffered to Kaffers because there really was a place called Khafferia that just happened to come up with Coffee as in Caffeine.

Me thinks DarkHall67 is nothing but an ignorant BULLY from archaic Western Imperialism.
...also know as a TWAT.
Grin

He probably read Australian Newspapers that spell things like Jail, rather than Gaol. Roll Eyes

Talk about cultural imperialism.

You think because you've met a few japanese people who you think " feel flattered that I would call them by their proper title." that you know all there is to know.

well from MY experience of living here in Tokyo for the past 11 years those japanese people were either probably unaware that you were trying to be a smartarse by calling them "nipponese" and "nips" or aware of the fact but in their effort to maintain social harmony and avoid any confrontation just smiled and saidf what you wanted to hear.

My bet is on the trying to maintain social harmony because they are very good at "reading" the atmosphere and tone , something that you are obviously NOT very good at.

And by saying you cant be racist because you would like to "visit tokyo one day and see some sumo" really shows how oblivious you are.

Dont bother coming to Tokyo.

We dont want you here.

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #18 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:28pm

Just because I Scuba Dive, doesn't mean I know everything
or
should devalue a non-diver's perspective of the act of Diving.

...its called "looking outside of the Square" (you boxhead).

Also, every 'Nipponese' person that I have met here in Australia,
be they Tourist
or Patient in the hospitals that I once worked
TAUGHT me this as the best way.

...and they are not the only people to 'correct' me upon the real title/name beyond the Anglicised versions of their countries.

Like I said, "so what" that you are in Nippon doesn't make 'YOU' the expert in the slightest. Its amazing how many people can be where they are but they just can't see whats right in front of them. Roll Eyes

I think you could be swimming amongst Orca's and still think they are Killer Whales. Roll Eyes

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #19 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.

"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"

Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #20 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

Just because I Scuba Dive, doesn't mean I know everything
or
should devalue a non-diver's perspective of the act of Diving.

...its called "looking outside of the Square" (you boxhead).

Also, every 'Nipponese' person that I have met here in Australia,
be they Tourist
or Patient in the hospitals that I once worked
TAUGHT me this as the best way.

...and they are not the only people to 'correct' me upon the real title/name beyond the Anglicised versions of their countries.

Like I said, "so what" that you are in Nippon (I once had a model boat called the 'Nippon Maru'), doesn't make 'YOU' the expert in the slightest. Its amazing how many people can be where they are but they just can't see whats right in front of them. Roll Eyes

I think you could be swimming amongst Orca's ans still think they are Killer Whales. Roll Eyes

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Re: Honouring Japanese people
Reply #21 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.

"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"

Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan.
So whats the problem honky?

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Honouring Japanese people Reply #22 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:32pm DarkHallDays69er: Totally Archaic Colonial Westernised Imperialist that has gone past the 'use by' date of 'arrogance'.
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Reply #23 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:33pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

You're thinking of gaijin.

Japanese people wouldn't usually take offense any more than we would. They'd laugh it off, politely of course. From a socio economic perspective, they are little different to us.

In a way, the Japanese are to Asia as the Italians are to Europe. They have a certain flair and are a tad racy at times.

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Reply #25 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:37pm

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.

"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"

Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan.
So whats the problem honky?

So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips".

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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Honouring Japanese people Reply #26 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:38pm It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:32pm: DarkHallDays69er: Totally Archaic Colonial Westernised Imperialist that has gone past the 'use by' date of 'arrogance'. Completely oblivious.
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Honouring Japanese people Reply #27 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:51pm Maybe I should go live in Zimbabwe and call them Rhodesians Or Sri Lanka and call it Ceylon Or Myanmar and call it Burma and other nations with Anglocised names. Even Anglophiled Wikipedia calls Nippon "a word used for Japan" >>> I think i'll keep calling a Spade a Spade.
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Reply #28 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:53pm

"Neal Stephenson aside, the only period when "Nipponese" was used widely was World War II, when Japan was officially known as the Dai Nippon Teikoku or "Great Nipponese Empire," and always referred to itself as such.
"Nipponese" was chosen over "Nihonese" or "Japanese" because it sounded tougher (I am not making this up). Of course, that ended pretty quickly when American GI's got a hold of the word and transformed it into "Nip," the preferred derogatory slang for the Japanese during the war. After the war, the Japanese mysteriously stopped using "Nippon" in English: now you mostly find it in abbreviations like ANA, NTT, and NHK.

The official name of Japan today is Nippon Koku, "State of Nippon," and the word "Nippon" appears in romaji on its postage stamps. Nihon is the preferred Japanese term for referring to Japan without specifically referring to the government. Only the worst of Japanology's pedants continue to use "Nipponese" in conversation or writing, but they're out there."

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=89499&lastnode_id=0

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Reply #29 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".

They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh? Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.

"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"

Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan.
So whats the problem honky?

So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips".

Err no...but I don't find abbreviations 'offensive'. Should I be as precious as you and claim that being called an 'aussie' is offensive?

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