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Reply #60 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:15am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:09am:
No more handouts....the money's finished. Whatever will hold up Australia's number one industry now?

America will realise in July that printing money is addictive....it's hard to stop once you start. How much lower will the American dollar go this year?

It's about time longweekend turned the pages of the history book instead of living in fantasy land.


and yet, every prediction you have made on house prices has been wrong. and in that same period of time, house prices have risen 40%. you are just plain wrong.
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Reply #61 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:37am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:15am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:09am:
No more handouts....the money's finished. Whatever will hold up Australia's number one industry now?

America will realise in July that printing money is addictive....it's hard to stop once you start. How much lower will the American dollar go this year?

It's about time longweekend turned the pages of the history book instead of living in fantasy land.


and yet, every prediction you have made on house prices has been wrong. and in that same period of time, house prices have risen 40%. you are just plain wrong.


True.

Oh and have a read of ANY of her posts in this topic.

Very rarely do I see a person so obsessed with being both annoying and ignorant.

It's all good though ... the rest of us just posted around her.
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Reply #62 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:42am
 
Here's an easy question for the spruikers.

Is Australia out of the global financial crisis?
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Reply #63 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:43am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 10:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:31pm:
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"The Rudd government is acting to make sure that investment in Australian real estate by temporary residents and foreign non-residents is within the law, meets community expectations and doesn't place pressure on housing availability for Australians," Senator Sherry said.


So Rudd did do something good!
Wow!   Shocked


No, dudd caused the problem in the first place with changes in the FIRB rules and now labor is trying to fix up another one of his major f.ckups Smiley What made it worse was the so called "housing minister" at the time, none other than that stupid dumb rag, Tanya Plibersek pretended like there was no problems at all Sad

Is nothing sacred in this country anymore !!

"the australian fair go" !! pigs arse Sad


Good to see someone else is awake to these bungling buffoons.
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Reply #64 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:45am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:15am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:09am:
No more handouts....the money's finished. Whatever will hold up Australia's number one industry now?

America will realise in July that printing money is addictive....it's hard to stop once you start. How much lower will the American dollar go this year?

It's about time longweekend turned the pages of the history book instead of living in fantasy land.


and yet, every prediction you have made on house prices has been wrong. and in that same period of time, house prices have risen 40%. you are just plain wrong.



Why were property prices artificially inflated by the government and the real estate institute?

Has there ever been a real estate/property bust in Australia in the past? and if there has been, what percentage did prices go down by?
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Reply #65 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:00am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 10:46pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:21pm:
Here is the article ..

Foreigners grab prime real estate in Sydney - 17 Nov 2010

SYDNEY'S famous Harbour vista is driving an unprecedented international land grab as overseas buyers snap up premium homes and office buildings across the city.


A surge of money from Asia, along with traditional European investors, is driving demand in the CBD, North Shore and Eastern Suburbs, cementing Sydney as the fourth most popular city for international investment on Earth.

Major real estate firms are cashing in on the trend, promoting Australian properties in Asian hubs like Hong Kong and Singapore, luring cashed up investors with promises of safe, secure growth opportunities.

The most recent figures from the Federal Government's Foreign Investment Review Board, collected during the worst of the global financial crisis in 2008-09, reveal foreigners picked up $23.4 billion in Australian real estate assets including 3639 new and existing homes, and 988 parcels of land.

"We see a lot of interest from Singapore, Hong Kong, Tokyo and the UK," Real Estate Buyers Association of Australia president Byron Rose said.

"They know the market is depressed - they are making huge capital gains and are reinvesting into the market."

Major real estate firms are also lining up to take advantage of the trend, with one of the world's largest, CB Richard Ellis, last month staging a property expo in Hong Kong promoting a range of residential, commercial and retail opportunities in Australia.

On display were the WorkCover NSW head office in Gosford, apartment buildings in Brighton-Le-Sands, Chippendale and Bondi Junction, commercial offices in Dee Why and the CBD, as well as retail stores.

CBRE senior managing director of international investments Rick Butler blamed Australian banks for the situation. "The banks are saying they are lending but in my view they aren't," Mr Butler said. "When we offer a major office building we are finding the top two offers are usually from a foreign buyer.

"The foreigners are there because they see Australia as safe, secure and actually having growth, which puts us in a much better position than old Europe and the US."

International property investment expert Professor Graeme Newell, of the University of Western Sydney, said the investment surge was also being driven by Asian pension funds.


on the other hand the same real estate parasites are bitching about how first homes buyers have been priced out of the market Sad

how does it feel to be a second rate citizen in your own country having payed rip off taxes all of your life ?? Sad


I'm glad I found that news article Last Nail. It's only a few months old too and it captures many of the issues I've been TRYING to make others aware of. Up til now, as you know, I've been posting from a real life personal prospective purchaser perspective.

Good for others to see wtf has been happening in real estate here in Sydney.

Read back and see what I've been saying .. it's been hell for Aussies in the domestic real estate market over the last few years. We've been expected to compete against people who have access to interest rates at 1/3 - 1/2 the rates we can access.

Bottom line? They have been able to secure more funds ----> they CAN and HAVE been buying up prime real estate.

What's left for us Aussies? The real estate these people don't want.

It's hard enough (for someone who looks at real estate every day) .. trying to find a decent property at a decent price these days (most of what I see on the market is overpriced or just plain trash ) .. but when you do see something decent .. you turn up in good faith with your building report only to find yourself competing against foreigners who are prepared to pay heaps more than what the property is really worth .. because they don't care .. they've obtained finance at 1/3 to 1/2 the interest rates you have.

See the highlighted bit in my last paragraph?? THAT is what has been driving prices UP!
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Reply #66 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:11am
 
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298664498

Now .. have a read of this topic and tell me why I shouldn't be pissed off at THESE bungling buffoons who are going to WORSEN the situation for us Aussies with their latest half baked MADNESS!
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Reply #67 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:20am
 
Here is an extract of the OP in that topic ...

A NEW tax on owner-occupied homes to arrest soaring house prices is among extraordinary measures proposed by five of the country's most admired chief executives to address the dark side of the resources boom.  

The chief executives said impacts from the boom, including higher cost of living, a shortage of staff and other industries withering, are Australia's greatest challenges.

Among the five executives named today at the top of the annual BusinessDay survey of most-admired chief executives is CSL chief Brian McNamee.


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Reply #68 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:23am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:11am:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298664498

Now .. have a read of this topic and tell me why I shouldn't be pissed off at THESE bungling buffoons who are going to WORSEN the situation for us Aussies with their latest half baked MADNESS!


Bungling Buffoons?????????
They are CEO's of the top five companies in Australia on any other given day you worship & quote these guys thoughts as direct quotes of God.
Yet this time it does not suit your vested interest so their "Bungling Buffoons"
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Reply #69 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:30am
 

No No No! My 2 replies in that topic were as follows:



Re: Put A New Tax On Homes- Say The CEOs

Reply #10 - Feb 26th, 2011, 2:46pm

He said there was a need to impose a capital gains tax on owner-occupied homes to cap house prices.

''Capital gains tax free on housing is poor policy because fundamentally it over-encourages people to invest in their home

- extract from the OP


Absolute cr@p of the highest order!

How does such half backed madness ever find its way into published print??



Re: Put A New Tax On Homes- Say The CEOs

Reply #12 - Feb 26th, 2011, 4:43pm

A NEW tax on owner-occupied homes to arrest soaring house prices is among extraordinary measures proposed by five of the country's most admired chief executives to address the dark side of the resources boom.

- from the OP


In short .. 5 mates/drinking buddies admired chief executives got together for some WOFTAM piss up corporate executive business seminar/luncheon, during which one of them spewed logically arrived at this idea .. and now we're privileged to read the resultant drunk fuelled rant conclusion.


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Reply #70 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:47am
 
If they were saying :
They are against the Carbon Tax
Company tax should be cut
Unions & collective bargaining should be outlawed
or any other ideas the business council endorses you'd be quoting them
as it seems all "Liberal Conservative" supporters do.

It doesn't matter what you've posted on this thread about this subject because as my 1st post stated you have a vested interest so therefore this time they are bumbling buffoons with no real knowledge of economics.(In your opinion anyway)

Topic has been discussed here as well
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298707876
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Reply #71 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:54am
 
Also as we have a 2 speed economy we have a 2 speed real estate market.
Capital Cities are still steadily rising where as thee wider market has fallen.
As someone who sold at the top & has been closely watching my local market for 20 odd months I can tell you all suburbs around my area have fallen between 7 & 12% & depending on the reserve look to continue that trend for the next 6 to 12 months.
Homes that where going for 650K when I sold are now asking 570 to 600K
& getting the lower end of that bracket.
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Reply #72 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:00am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:47am:
If they were saying :
They are against the Carbon Tax
Company tax should be cut
Unions & collective bargaining should be outlawed
or any other ideas the business council endorses you'd be quoting them
as it seems all "Liberal Conservative" supporters do.

It doesn't matter what you've posted on this thread about this subject because as my 1st post stated you have a vested interest so therefore this time they are bumbling buffoons with no real knowledge of economics.(In your opinion anyway)

Topic has been discussed here as well
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298707876


It DOES MATTER what I've posted in this topic .. because it is THIS that we're presently in .. and THIS topic is about real estate (in Oz) and what's happened to it.

Of course I have a vested interest .. because I am an Aussie and like most/all Aussies .. we're concerned about happens to our homes .. ie the homes we own and the homes we are looking to own.

As regards carbon tax etc .. that has nothing at all to do with this topic.


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Reply #73 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:04am
 
<<Why were property prices artificially inflated by the government and the real estate institute?

Has there ever been a real estate/property bust in Australia in the past? and if there has been, what percentage did prices go down by? >>
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None of the 'growth fairy' brigade have an answer?

Smithy....we do have a two speed economy. For the last 30 years we have been speeding forward, and for the next 30 we'll be speeding backward.
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Reply #74 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:09am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:15am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 8:09am:
No more handouts....the money's finished. Whatever will hold up Australia's number one industry now?

America will realise in July that printing money is addictive....it's hard to stop once you start. How much lower will the American dollar go this year?

It's about time longweekend turned the pages of the history book instead of living in fantasy land.


and yet, every prediction you have made on house prices has been wrong. and in that same period of time, house prices have risen 40%. you are just plain wrong.


what time period for the prediction eh ??

did you watch the foreign correspondent video regarding Ireland ??

same gangbuster enviable economy, same property boom going for 10 years, jobs on every street corner and then what happoened ??

houses worth only half of what they paid for them and people in negative equity having to sell or move off shore to get a job !!

So what happened ?? Bear in mind that there was lots of high tech companies set up in Ireland providing real jobs for people not bullshit service sector jobs selling chinese made crap at Hardly Normal !!
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