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Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:00am
 
So Politician have gone back to their electorates and discussed gay marriage, so now for a conscious vote.

Should Labor and Liberal Party leaders allow a conscious vote on this human equality issue?



Depriving gay people of marriage 'wicked'

Former High Court justice Michael Kirby says it is "ridiculous and wicked" to deprive same sex couples of the right to marry.

But Mr Kirby, who is openly gay, says he and his long-term partner would not necessarily tie the knot if gay marriage was legalised in Australia.

"We talked about this and I don't think we would get married if it was there in the law because you'd have to be careful of changing the dynamics," he said, in a light-hearted and humorous address at La Trobe University in Melbourne on Monday.

"We've got through 42 years without it and I think we will just toddle along as we are.

"But for those who want and need an affirmation, and need things for parents and families, they should have it and it's ridiculous and it's wicked to deprive fellow citizens of equal rights in my humble opinion.

"We're moving towards that, though our prime minister, an atheist and non-believer and living in sin, doesn't believe that it should be there for two people of the same sex."

Mr Kirby was speaking at the university after being awarded an honorary doctorate.

He said if he had been open about his sexuality earlier in life he may not have had the same opportunities.

"If I revealed my sexuality earlier, there's no way I would have been appointed to various judicial posts, especially I think to the High Court of Australia.

"The country wasn't ready for it then.

"That was just what you were expected to do in those days, don't ask, don't tell."

Mr Kirby retired from the High Court in 2009.


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8214268/depriving-gay-people-of-marriage-wic...
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Reply #1 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:07am
 
How is Bob Browns health today?  We can only hope. Smiley

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Reply #2 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am
 
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that
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Reply #3 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:16am
 
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am:
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that



So you would vote against human equality cod?

Is that why the hard right want to dehumanise Refugees ... attack humans so your lot can do horrid things to them?


Until everyone is equal, no one is secure from attack ... not even age pensioners !!!

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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:20am
 
____ wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:16am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am:
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that



So you would vote against human equality cod?

Is that why the hard right want to dehumanise Refugees ... attack humans so your lot can do horrid things to them?


Until everyone is equal, no one is secure from attack ... not even age pensioners !!!



Amazing how you list everything Brown & Gillard are doing - deliberately engineered refugee crisis, threaten the security of the pensioners, the poor and the homeless with your policies and then turn it back on your critics. Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:33am
 
Prevailing wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:20am:
____ wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:16am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am:
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that



So you would vote against human equality cod?

Is that why the hard right want to dehumanise Refugees ... attack humans so your lot can do horrid things to them?


Until everyone is equal, no one is secure from attack ... not even age pensioners !!!



Amazing how you list everything Brown & Gillard are doing - deliberately engineered refugee crisis, threaten the security of the pensioners, the poor and the homeless with your policies and then turn it back on your critics. Cheesy



Who voted against Greens Bill to lift Pensioners out of Poverty the first time?

Liberal and Labor

Greens persisted and Liberals crumbled ... then Labor. Pensions where raised because of the commitment of the Greens to lift them above the poverty line.


Greens are the only party pushing to lift the dole so to lift the unemployed and their families out of poverty.

As for Homeless

Financial crisis no excuse for homeless neglect: Greens

The Greens say the Federal Government should not use the financial crisis as an excuse to water down its commitments to homeless people.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/24/2428248.htm


If any political group is attacking the Pensioners, Unemployed (and under employed) and the Homeless, then it is the Hard Right
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Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:41am
 
____ wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:16am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am:
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that



So you would vote against human equality cod?

Is that why the hard right want to dehumanise Refugees ... attack humans so your lot can do horrid things to them?


Until everyone is equal, no one is secure from attack ... not even age pensioners !!!





why do you resume to know how anyone else will vote??...

now you talk about HUMAN equality  what a laugh how many gays in Australia. woody?.. you see this is about Australia got nothing to do with all those other gays round the world.my vote which ever way it goes.. wont affect any other human other than in this country..

so could you try just a weeny bit to be honest and not twist and not assume..

find one thread about gay marriage where I have said NO....

the fact is I couldnt care bloody less..

then you bring in refugees.. another ploy .. and the name calling very childish.

and doesnt do your cause one bit of good.. you certainly faild the how to win them over course didnt you???>.lol

go back to the hardleft school and get it right.. in the mean time may i suggest you dont assume anything!
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Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:52am
 
Prevailing wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:07am:
How is Bob Browns health today?  We can only hope. Smiley



The crazed Eric Abetz is obsessed with Brown and the instigator of a relentless hate campaign.

Is your post some sort of veiled threat? You and Abetz would make a great team - you're both delusional.
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Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:03am
 
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:41am:
____ wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:16am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:11am:
why not make it an election issue...then it wil really mean something..

and whilst this miserable excuse for a govt is at it.. make the CARBON TAX and issue.. let the greens go to the polls with both issues right on the front page.

id like to see that



So you would vote against human equality cod?

Is that why the hard right want to dehumanise Refugees ... attack humans so your lot can do horrid things to them?


Until everyone is equal, no one is secure from attack ... not even age pensioners !!!





why do you resume to know how anyone else will vote??...

now you talk about HUMAN equality  what a laugh how many gays in Australia. woody?.. you see this is about Australia got nothing to do with all those other gays round the world.my vote which ever way it goes.. wont affect any other human other than in this country..

so could you try just a weeny bit to be honest and not twist and not assume..

find one thread about gay marriage where I have said NO....

the fact is I couldnt care bloody less..

then you bring in refugees.. another ploy .. and the name calling very childish.

and doesnt do your cause one bit of good.. you certainly faild the how to win them over course didnt you???>.lol

go back to the hardleft school and get it right.. in the mean time may i suggest you dont assume anything!




So you don't oppose a conscious vote on equality within marriage cods?


As for an election issue, I would prefer Greens make a sustained push to allow Australians a choice concerning voluntary euthanasia.

I think this is connected to the human equality issue too.
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Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:55am
 
mantra wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:52am:
Prevailing wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 7:07am:
How is Bob Browns health today?  We can only hope. Smiley



The crazed Eric Abetz is obsessed with Brown and the instigator of a relentless hate campaign.

Is your post some sort of veiled threat? You and Abetz would make a great team - you're both delusional.


LOL Abetz ,what can you say. Grin Grin Grin
Anyone counted his fingers?
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Reply #10 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:56am
 
I'm glad the vote is going to be a conscious one.

I have always found people unconscious make terrible decisions.
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Reply #11 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:57am
 
PS - Thanks for underlining my point about your education woody.

Whoever said Islanders brought up by the state were thick eh?
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Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:56am:
I'm glad the vote is going to be a conscious one.

I have always found people unconscious make terrible decisions.



12 years of the Howard Government ?
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Reply #13 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 9:05am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:57am:
PS - Thanks for underlining my point about your education woody.

Whoever said Islanders brought up by the state were thick eh?



I am happy you find my education level a point of interest Hicks ... yet what has it to do with the topic.

Conscious Verses Party Line Voting.
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Reply #14 - Feb 28th, 2011 at 9:05am
 
____ wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 9:03am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 28th, 2011 at 8:56am:
I'm glad the vote is going to be a conscious one.

I have always found people unconscious make terrible decisions.



12 years of the Howard Government ?


We're you in Australia when the Howard Government began.
Given you are not Australian and all mate......
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