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Reply #15 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:51pm

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

The tragedy goes further than just 1 person, his family and friends will also suffer in ways most of us will thankfully never know.

I find it hard to fathom that the few deaths in the insulation industry that occured during the Rudd leadership created more of a cry for pollies heads than the deaths and horrific injury suffered by our armed forces personal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Where are the far right commentators now or is this young mans life worth less than that of an insulation installer?

The slight difference is the digger knows the risk The installer didnt appear to

Doesnt make it right Sad

In both cases, the victims were doubtless following orders to some extent...

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bwood1946 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1598 Gender:	Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:52pm adelcrow wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:50pm: Every life taken tragically is worth the exact same. There is no "glorious death" unless you subscribe to The Boys Own Annual for you belief system. Who mentioned glorious death
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Reply #17 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:53pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

The tragedy goes further than just 1 person, his family and friends will also suffer in ways most of us will thankfully never know.

I find it hard to fathom that the few deaths in the insulation industry that occured during the Rudd leadership created more of a cry for pollies heads than the deaths and horrific injury suffered by our armed forces personal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Where are the far right commentators now or is this young mans life worth less than that of an insulation installer?

not to be too insenstive but soldiers JOB is to go into harms way... INsulation installers job is to go into ceilings....

a little different.

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Reply #18 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:54pm

Equitist wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:51pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:47pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:43pm:

The tragedy goes further than just 1 person, his family and friends will also suffer in ways most of us will thankfully never know.

I find it hard to fathom that the few deaths in the insulation industry that occured during the Rudd leadership created more of a cry for pollies heads than the deaths and horrific injury suffered by our armed forces personal in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Where are the far right commentators now or is this young mans life worth less than that of an insulation installer?

The slight difference is the digger knows the risk The installer didnt appear to

Doesnt make it right Sad

In both cases, the victims were doubtless following orders to some extent...

that comment is more idiotic than your usual waffle...

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Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight
Reply #19 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:57pm

Just cross-linking 2 parallel threads (started in different boards)...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298162689/4#4

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Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan
February 20, 2011 - 11:39AM

An Australian soldier and Afghan interpreter have been killed in Afghanistan overnight. Sad

Defence Force Chief Angus Houston said today that the pair had been shot and despite immediate first aid, could not be saved.

More to come

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Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:00pm

The war in Afghanistan has bi-partisan support from both the government and opposition......it is also sanctioned by the U.N.....Getting in will be easier than getting out.....When we look back at what was achieved in Afghanistan and Iraq we can be certain of one thing....it was not worth the cost!!!

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:02pm One dead soldier. Imagine if we were seriously involved in a real war and they were rattling off the names of twenty, thirty or forty dead diggers each night.
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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight Reply #22 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:06pm Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:02pm: One dead soldier. Imagine if we were seriously involved in a real war and they were rattling off the names of twenty, thirty or forty dead diggers each night. A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic. Joseph Stalin (1879 - 1953)
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Reply #23 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:18pm

Sh.it Happens !

over and over and over

the worst part of this is that politicians will go through their script speeches. something like ...

-joe blow was a 'brave soldier, but we must stay the course by sacrificing more young lives to honor this dead soldier's sacrifice.

underlinging message :
we must provoke and fight wars so we can feed the war machine all you tax dollars, while we argue over $5 a week ... and how bad these muslims are ... while Australians are dying for a corrupt Muslim government in Afghanistan.

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Reply #24 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:30pm

The war in Afghanistan has bi-partisan support from both the government and opposition......it is also sanctioned by the U.N.....Getting in will be easier than getting out.....When we look back at what was achieved in Afghanistan and Iraq we can be certain of one thing....it was not worth the cost!!!

I'am sure that the politicians and boffins of the UN will not send their Sons and Daughters to fight for even more corrupt governments.

Democracy, is Australia or for that matter the other countries fighting for Democracy in other countries a real Democracy; more likely a "Plutocracy".

When a Premier of Tasmania gets paid $275,000 per annum, which is ten times a retired couples combined pension, that is hardly a Democracy, and besides Tasmania must have a Politician or ex-politician for every ordinary citizens.

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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:31pm The Greens should be summarily deported from Australia - this country and the environment cannot sustain the financial cost of keeping them here.
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Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 2:00pm

hawil wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:30pm:

The war in Afghanistan has bi-partisan support from both the government and opposition......it is also sanctioned by the U.N.....Getting in will be easier than getting out.....When we look back at what was achieved in Afghanistan and Iraq we can be certain of one thing....it was not worth the cost!!!

I'am sure that the politicians and boffins of the UN will not send their Sons and Daughters to fight for even more corrupt governments.

Democracy, is Australia or for that matter the other countries fighting for Democracy in other countries a real Democracy; more likely a "Plutocracy".

When a Premier of Tasmania gets paid $275,000 per annum, which is ten times a retired couples combined pension, that is hardly a Democracy, and besides Tasmania must have a Politician or ex-politician for every ordinary citizens.

IM not sure the connection between a pension and a head of govt and why you think they should be the same... And perhaps you should work on your definition of 'democracy' a little more!

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Reply #27 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 2:12pm

hawil wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:30pm:

The war in Afghanistan has bi-partisan support from both the government and opposition......it is also sanctioned by the U.N.....Getting in will be easier than getting out.....When we look back at what was achieved in Afghanistan and Iraq we can be certain of one thing....it was not worth the cost!!!

I'am sure that the politicians and boffins of the UN will not send their Sons and Daughters to fight for even more corrupt governments.

Democracy, is Australia or for that matter the other countries fighting for Democracy in other countries a real Democracy; more likely a "Plutocracy".

When a Premier of Tasmania gets paid $275,000 per annum, which is ten times a retired couples combined pension, that is hardly a Democracy, and besides Tasmania must have a Politician or ex-politician for every ordinary citizens.

Tasmania is a very insignificant part of Australia!!!

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Re: Politics of war: another digger killed overnight
Reply #28 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 2:43pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 2:12pm:

hawil wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 1:30pm:

The war in Afghanistan has bi-partisan support from both the government and opposition......it is also sanctioned by the U.N.....Getting in will be easier than getting out.....When we look back at what was achieved in Afghanistan and Iraq we can be certain of one thing....it was not worth the cost!!!

I'am sure that the politicians and boffins of the UN will not send their Sons and Daughters to fight for even more corrupt governments.

Democracy, is Australia or for that matter the other countries fighting for Democracy in other countries a real Democracy; more likely a "Plutocracy".

When a Premier of Tasmania gets paid $275,000 per annum, which is ten times a retired couples combined pension, that is hardly a Democracy, and besides Tasmania must have a Politician or ex-politician for every ordinary citizens.

Tasmania is a very insignificant part of Australia!!!

Wink

It's part of australia???? LOL

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Reply #29 - Feb 20^th, 2011 at 3:35pm

Equitist wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Feb 20^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:

you are no more sorry than the insurgents that killed him. otherwise this wouldnt be in the politicians suck forum..

you are a political prostitute..using another soldiers death for your abominable political point scoring..

Hello kettle - glad to see you single me out instead of the serial pot-stirrers on your side of the growing political divide - not! Roll Eyes

I am genuinely sorry and saddened - but weren't you one of those who were vocally blaming Lab policies for the mass-drownings of 'boat people' over the past few days!? Roll Eyes

No matter how much you wish it, you can't get away with not wanting to deal with politics both ways, Cods...

no your not sorry thats an excuse and you know it, you have a worse mouth than bettestreep had.. and thats saying something.no I have never attack labor at your level, and you would put that up here if you had the evidence you are without a doubt the lowest form of life on here.

you even start a thread about a dead soldier and then go on to twist it to bring in politics and now something totally unrelated..boat people..

how bloody caring is that..hypocrites like you hide under the sham of a bleeding heart... no way do you get away with it this time.you can go back to your rock.because thats what you really hide under.

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