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Reply #15 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:59am

Big W has some market share of printing but the real cause of the demise of the speciality camera shop as addressed in a letter to the SMH by an owner(some bias I admit) is none other then Mr internets killing my business Gerry Harvey.
The letter pointed out that whilst Mr Harvey was crying all hard done by he is offering 10 cent prints & absorbing the losses to get market share as they call it.
What it really is more like, is absorb the losses until competition is gone then reap the profits

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #17 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:19am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:04am:

As long as we get the best service - why would anyone care??

I want best service, for cheapest cost.

I don't care about country of origin, I don't care about where the net profit ends up.

Until you think along those lines you will encourage not having the best.

Missing the point Andrei
I agree best service for best price but once a market becomes a monopoly or duopoly then the service crashes & the cost goes up.

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #18 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:23am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:04am:

As long as we get the best service - why would anyone care??

I want best service, for cheapest cost.

I don't care about country of origin, I don't care about where the net profit ends up.

Until you think along those lines you will encourage not having the best.

Missing the point Andrei
I agree best service for best price but once a market becomes a monopoly or duopoly then the service crashes & the cost goes up.

Agree.
Rather than small shops (I hardly ever use them anyway) - we need to encourage the likes of Wall Mart, Tesco, Sainsbury, Costco, Winn Dixie, Food Lion all to get into Australia.

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #19 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:39am

I for one will be sad to see A & R in Townville go, although I can accept a small share of the responsibility.
Once our only local Ayr bookstore closed down two years ago and replaced by a bloody dress shop, I've been ordering books on line, and occasionally buying from A & R when in Townville.
But only if Big W didn't have a book I was after.
Looks like the market has spoken.
The flipside though is the other bookstores in Townsville like Dymocks for example will gain some business but for how long is anyones guess.
It's possible that internet ordering and the sneaky rapid growth of
E-books will see more bookstore closures.
Sign of the times I'm afraid.

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #20 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:54am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:51am:

cods wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:16am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:09am:

Coles have been recruiting like mad the last 3 quarters.

I know three guys who have taken roles there now, the $ they are offering is exceptional.

Financial Controller for one of their areas - they are offering $185k base + bonus + super, more than the market rate is that.

Coles are serious these days about grabbing market share.

They are not likely to allow little roadblocks to get in the way mate. Wesfarmers have given them carte blanche to get ahead of Woolworths.

I would be joyful andrei if that figure was on the floor as well where the real work and earnings takes place.. without those on the floor they wouldnt exsist. yet they get paid the least..I think the little butchers will be next in line.. and then watch the price of meat go through the roof.

I wonder when they will set their eyes on the likes of Aldi.

its wrong they are allowed to gobble up the little guys but hands off the bigger ones.

I am just saying cods, that I noticed Coles are serious now about grabbing market share.

Wesfarmers have brought in the UK Asda team to ramp up their strategy and have got rid of a lot of dead wood across the board.

The $ they are offering for Finance roles even made me think of putting my CV forward.
They are offering $200k+ for middle management roles lately.

Not bad at all.

Hence my point is they are serious and not likely to allow some small obstacles to prevent the juggernault.

andrei I did understand what you were saying.. a financial controller is hardly bending his back where it really counts on the floor where the real earnings take place.. no offence regarding the job and the pay i am sure they wouldnt pay it if the job wasnt worth it.. but when you think of where their money begins in the shops then I think they should also pass some of the good times and rewards to those people...

yes a juggernaut alright and its taking everything in its path.. is that really good for everyone?.. or just Westfarmers?..we have seen the demise of the corner store... now everyone needs a car to go and buy a carton of milk..we have watched them destroy the little sweet shops even bakeries and soon the butcher.btw we dont have a milko anymore either.

I know its called progress but I also call it monopoly.. and I am not convinced thats a great idea.. looking at what the Banks are capeable of.. I am not sure at all.

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #21 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:59am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:04am:

As long as we get the best service - why would anyone care??

I want best service, for cheapest cost.

I don't care about country of origin, I don't care about where the net profit ends up.

Until you think along those lines you will encourage not having the best.

so when we start getting all our food stuff on line from overseas companies.. that will be alright as well I guess..its not so hard to imagine... if you think ten years ago you wouldnt have thought of buying books on the net.

so if all the profits end up in China you are ok with that andrei?

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Reply #22 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:03pm

<ALDI are an ENORMOUS 100% German owned multi-national

I'd rather give my money to Coles - who are 100% AUSTRALIAN owned>

That's curious reasoning buzz.
One.Tel (and a host of other similar shonks) were 100% Australian owned. Would you have suggested we all give our phone business to them.
And by the way, it's a fiction that Coles or Woollies are 100% Australian-owned. They are owned principally by institutions who own them on behalf of various investors who are investing on behalf of various ultimate owners. The true beneficial ownership is almost impossible to ascertain.

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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #23 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:15pm

IGA are Australian owned and supply more Australian brands than any of the others. I am disgusted at Coles and Woolworths with their own brands filling the shelves, much of the content in these products is foreign, whilst the other brand names are becoming extinct in theColes and Woolworth stores.

http://www.ethical.org.au/issues/?issue=16

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