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Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Feb 18th, 2011 at 9:34am
 
So Borders & A&R are likely, not certain, to be liquidated with maybe 2500 jobs down the tube.
Two major reasons are 1. the parent carrying too much debt and 2. heavy internet buying fromo/s especially since the dollar rise.
But the third reason is worth considering.
The two supermarket giants, both directly and through their subs like Target, have been heavily discounting books.
Once again we see the predators squeezing the little bloke out and gobbling up the business. OK, Borders & A/R are not smallfry, but this is hurting all those little bookshops . . .just like what happened to the butchers, the fruit shops, the delicatessens and what will happen to the bread shops, unless the Asians are prepared to go back to an Asian standard of living.
And where is the government, where is the ACCC?
And I won't even get into the milk debate.
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Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:09am
 
Coles have been recruiting like mad the last 3 quarters.

I know three guys who have taken roles there now, the $ they are offering is exceptional.

Financial Controller for one of their areas - they are offering $185k base + bonus + super, more than the market rate is that.

Coles are serious these days about grabbing market share.

They are not likely to allow little roadblocks to get in the way mate. Wesfarmers have given them carte blanche to get ahead of Woolworths.
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Reply #2 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:16am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:09am:
Coles have been recruiting like mad the last 3 quarters.

I know three guys who have taken roles there now, the $ they are offering is exceptional.

Financial Controller for one of their areas - they are offering $185k base + bonus + super, more than the market rate is that.

Coles are serious these days about grabbing market share.

They are not likely to allow little roadblocks to get in the way mate. Wesfarmers have given them carte blanche to get ahead of Woolworths.




I would be joyful andrei if that figure was on the floor as well where the real work and earnings takes place.. without those on the floor they wouldnt exsist. yet they get paid the least..I think the little butchers will be next in line.. and then watch the price of meat go through the roof.

I wonder when they will set their eyes on the likes of Aldi.

its wrong they are allowed to gobble up the little guys but hands off the bigger ones.
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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:18am
 
I am a supporter of the free market but I also believe in a level playing field. Which is why, strangely, I am against free trade, because there is no level playing field with WTO's and the like.
What these guys are doing to business in Australia is one thin line away from criminal.
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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:21am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 9:34am:
So Borders & A&R are likely, not certain, to be liquidated with maybe 2500 jobs down the tube.
Two major reasons are 1. the parent carrying too much debt and 2. heavy internet buying fromo/s especially since the dollar rise.
But the third reason is worth considering.
The two supermarket giants, both directly and through their subs like Target, have been heavily discounting books.
Once again we see the predators squeezing the little bloke out and gobbling up the business. OK, Borders & A/R are not smallfry, but this is hurting all those little bookshops . . .just like what happened to the butchers, the fruit shops, the delicatessens and what will happen to the bread shops, unless the Asians are prepared to go back to an Asian standard of living.
And where is the government, where is the ACCC?
And I won't even get into the milk debate.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Cry Not my borders.

Thats it, now it's getting personal....

These huge departments stores will have pharmaceutical dispensaries next... look what happened to Kodak express.

Corporate domination, market dominance, one shop for everything, Wall Mart!

I think I might move to the UK.

If you need me, you will find me curled up in a little ball grieving on Level 2, in the coffee club cafe Borders Rouse hill...next to the flower pot stand with a chai latte Undecided




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Re: Once again Woollies & Coles are in the frame
Reply #5 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:39am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 9:34am:


... and what will happen to the bread shops, unless the Asians are prepared to go back to an Asian standard of living.








WTF ?








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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:41am
 
mellie wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:21am:
... look what happened to Kodak express.






The digital camera ?






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Reply #7 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:46am
 
<WTF>

What I am getting at, buzz, is that many if not most of the bread shops are run by Asians. Hardworking they are for sure, but if they are to survive the squeeze by the corporate duopoly and stay in business, they might be forced to sink to a third world standard of living.
Sorry to disappoint you but there was no racist meaning.
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Reply #8 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:47am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:41am:
mellie wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:21am:
... look what happened to Kodak express.






The digital camera ?









I was referring to how they offer re-printing services in Big W, for half the price.

It's cheaper to take your digital camera to Big W than buy the expensive printing paper and print them off yourself.

I have a state of the art printer here at home, and even I don't bother.
(ps, I only bought it because I needed the fax and scanner)

If it's just the one pic I will print it off, but the papers really expensive so I just do it BigW.

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Reply #9 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:50am
 
That's one that slipped past me mellie, the little photo shops. . .zapped by Coles & Woollies.
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Reply #10 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:51am
 
cods wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:16am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:09am:
Coles have been recruiting like mad the last 3 quarters.

I know three guys who have taken roles there now, the $ they are offering is exceptional.

Financial Controller for one of their areas - they are offering $185k base + bonus + super, more than the market rate is that.

Coles are serious these days about grabbing market share.

They are not likely to allow little roadblocks to get in the way mate. Wesfarmers have given them carte blanche to get ahead of Woolworths.




I would be joyful andrei if that figure was on the floor as well where the real work and earnings takes place.. without those on the floor they wouldnt exsist. yet they get paid the least..I think the little butchers will be next in line.. and then watch the price of meat go through the roof.

I wonder when they will set their eyes on the likes of Aldi.

its wrong they are allowed to gobble up the little guys but hands off the bigger ones.



I am just saying cods, that I noticed Coles are serious now about grabbing market share.

Wesfarmers have brought in the UK Asda team to ramp up their strategy and have got rid of a lot of dead wood across the board.

The $ they are offering for Finance roles even made me think of putting my CV forward.
They are offering $200k+ for middle management roles lately.

Not bad at all.


Hence my point is they are serious and not likely to allow some small obstacles to prevent the juggernault.
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Reply #11 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:52am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:46am:
<WTF>

What I am getting at, buzz, is that many if not most of the bread shops are run by Asians. Hardworking they are for sure, but if they are to survive the squeeze by the corporate duopoly and stay in business, they might be forced to sink to a third world standard of living.
Sorry to disappoint you but there was no racist meaning.



Lol...not these Asian bread shop owners in our area, they too are merging, the same people own 4 local bread shops in our area...and the staff change over is huge...so the wages must be pretty crap.

Roll Eyes None of them can speak English, so probably FOB's...and every time you go there, it's a new person serving you.

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Reply #12 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:55am
 
And Buzz, google Reverse discrimination, also known as positive discrimination/reveres racism.

Are you not guilty of having reverse discriminated against us?



Cool Because all people have rights, not just minorities.
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Reply #13 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:57am
 
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I wonder when they will set their eyes on the likes of Aldi.





I RELISH the thought

ALDI are an ENORMOUS 100% German owned multi-national


I only visited them once - and felt like I was shopping in cold war, eastern Europe

I'd rather give my money to Coles - who are
100% AUSTRALIAN owned





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Reply #14 - Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:58am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18th, 2011 at 10:57am:
I'd rather give my money to Coles - who are
100% AUSTRALIAN owned
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With an entirely British senior management.

Grin

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