Why The Immigration Policy Must Change and Morrison Should Quit

First off, to shut all coalition supporters down I don't agree with Labor's current Immigration Policy and do agree that it is in complete tatters, and something needs to be done to ensure that we return to normality when discussing the asylum seekers. In the same breath, I find the Liberal policy to be an absolute disgrace, and any minister who can even utter the idea of using the issue to capitalise on votes should quit immediately; quite clearly Morrison doesn't hold the expertise necessary to be an immigration minister because he doesn't understand people, just how to manipulate them.  And before you can stand up and say, "Oh but he denied it, and this wasn't true" just remember that this was a leak directly FROM the coalition, and denial will only be the normal thing to do in this situation for any rat bag.  No doubt about it: Morrison must quit and he must do this today. The party and the people of Australia would be better suited with a immigration spokesman, on either side, who is moderate and who can take race, religion, and people's anxieties out of the equation.

I find Australia's Immigration Policy to be the most insane piece of work ever, and it's thanks to the fact that there hasn't been bipartisan support on it since the early 90's.  Take for example the knowledge that we have a skills shortage, and have no choice but to leave our shores to search for these skills.  Our Universities provide us a great opportunity to find people who have already lived within the Australian community for a minimum of 3 years, and who have the necessary skills. And yet students can't get a permanent residency.  To do so would require them to find work, but the catch 22 is that to find work they need to have a permanent residency.  Make sense? I think not.

Then there is the case of the fact that people who overstay their visit in Australia and become the real "illegal immigrants" forfeit not only their rights, but also the rights of their unborn.  Basically every other western country I know of ensures that if a child is born in the country they are automatically granted the right to citizenship.  In the UK you just have to be born in the hospital and you gain citizenship.  Yet in Australia, if you have an "illegal" parent you will not be given citizenship.  I ask you, how is this right on the child? How is it right for a child to have lived in Australia their entire life, yet go to school and be recognised as an "illegal?"  Quite clearly our Immigration Policy is a complete joke, and is made up of nothing but patchwork over patchwork to please the party divides, and again the anxieties within the public.

Let's move on to refugees.  Can we make it very clear, regardless of which part of the divide you are from, that refugees, under any method of transportation they use to come to Australia, are not illegal immigrants. Stop saying they are because it only decreases your argument and shows that you are uneducated in the issue. Secondly, like I said, I believe that Labor's policy is bullswax. Yet clearly, the Liberal one serves to do nothing more than to make sure that we close our eyes and turn around, forgetting that there are currently millions of people around the world seeking refuge. Tony's idea of Stopping the Boats simply ensures they go through their plight in another country. Now, this entire week we've heard about how "Australia is compassionate" from both sides of politics. So, if that being the case, surely we can't just sit around and pretend there is nothing wrong going on?  The fact that so many people jump on boats to come to Australia, risking their lives and the lives of their family members only proves that the current framework on how to handle refugee claims is not working. It is overloaded to the max and instead of sitting around trying to come up with a national solution that only serves to send the issue to the back pages of the newspaper Australia, as a compassionate country, should be out there barraging the world community demanding changes to the Convention.  Perhaps even we should consider increasing the number of intake we have, because quite clearly there is something not right.

For all of you who think refugees are targeting Australia just remember that Pakistan has 2 million, Iran has 1 million, and Australia's intake is 13,000. Remember that when it comes the bottom line on the issue, a refugee is a refugee regardless where they end up (within the Refugee Convention signatories).  When talking about this issue, remember the numbers. And if you can't sustain an argument USING the numbers and common sense, then there is an underlying reason for why you are so worried about the "refugee issue."  It can't be more clearer than that.  Also remember that these are people, and as much as you may not know about them, or think they are different, in the end all people in this world have one mission: and that is to provide and protect themselves and their family.  It is highly doubtful that people would on purpose attempt to get on a "leaky" boat, with their family members, and be treated like animals just because they want to take advantage of a policy. It is highly more likely that they are desperate and left with no other choice.

So, provide your opinions, and don't be afraid to admit your true thoughts.  At the end of the day it's the only way of resolving this issue.  

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:00pm:


I would still be asking for his head if he had instead said they should try to use an anti-Christian, anti-Hindu, anti-Jewish, etc. agenda.  Immigration Spokesmen, opposition or government, are not meant to capitalise politically over people's anxieties. They are meant to determine the best policy to serve Australia's national interest.  

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:



No, they are meant to address them, not smother them in boilerplate and platitudes. Nor to ignore them.

A large number of people throught the liberal west are somewhere on the scale from anxious to furious about militant Islamists in their countries. Politicians of every colour have been ignoring or downplaying this. When riots break out (cronulla), or anti-immigration parties get a sizable parliamentary representation (Holland, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland, France, UK etc), these politicians can say or do nothing better than blame the people they have been studiously ignoring, viz, their own voters who are anxious-to-furious about the conduct of hostile Islamists in their own countries.


Morrison should have come out and man up and say that even if it wasn't discussed in the shadow cabinet, it should have been dicussed: how to get rid of immigrants who do not reciprocate the hospitality this country and its people have shown them.

Soren wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:21pm:


Muslims are not a problem in Australia and have proven to be tolerant and accepting of other religions.....The only problem is political parties using the issue for short term domestic political gain…..This is one reason why we have an atheist Prime Minister.....Aussies are sick of this religious bull sh!t!!!

Ban Religion?
Is that the answer?
I agree with your point but I also agree with the OP.
This is just one of the mirrade of issues that this problem encompasses.
We require reasonable debate not the shrill dog whistles we had from BOTH sides.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:46pm:


mmm, sounds like it, ey? So much for an act that is actually IN our constitution: "Freedom to practice your own religion."

When they spurt pure hatred they advocate for their freedom of speech, which is not even a constitutional freedom, but when it comes to those freedoms that are they seek to destroy them.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:48pm:



Which part sounded like it to your cloth ears, ey?

Violence begets violence - it is self-perpetuating and self-escalating!

At some point, it becomes necessary for both sides to come together on neutral ground from a perspective of mutual respect and responsibility - and to forgive past atrocities...

Most importantly, they must disclose and discuss their joint and several aspirations - and seek out a win/win solution...

To date, the 'Western warmongers' have been just as unwilling to sit down at the negotiation table as the 'Muslim extremists' - because such currently suits the joint and several agendas of both sides...

Without each side demonstrating a semblance of responsibility and respect, no amount of mutual distrust, demonisation, vilification, scapegoating and exploitation is going to lead to a positive and lasting outcome...

If we continue to allow our pollies to carry on about the past, then we will have no hope of arriving at a state of relative peace, harmony and co-operation in our lifetimes - nor those of our children....

The current madness must stop - and pronto - but I'm not sure that such is convenient for the Western powermongers (and their highly-profitable warmongering industries)!

Where there's the goodwill, there's a way!!!