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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #75 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:15pm So , if Kiwis catch onto her trying to suck them into an NBN with the promise of an apple trade... (that's likely to be appealed and knocked back)... should we get the right government in to defend their farmers, (Libs).... Could it be said that Gillard would be bitter apples?
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Reply #76 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:15pm

I have no idea what Bob Brown will do, I dont agree with all the policies of any of our parties.
I would like to think the majority of Australians do not form their opinions based purely on the manifesto of any political parties.
Back to the apple growers, lets face facts, the apples grown in this country are bloody awfull and most of them have been in cold storage for months or even over a year before they get to consumers.
The producers know they will have to lift their game or they will lose most of their market to better tasting, fresher and cheaper apples from across the ditch.
I never feel sorry for industries that take their markets for granted and deliver a third rate product at a first class price.

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Reply #77 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

adelcrow wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:15pm:

I have no idea what Bob Brown will do, I dont agree with all the policies of any of our parties.
I would like to think the majority of Australians do not form their opinions based purely on the manifesto of any political parties.
Back to the apple growers, lets face facts, the apples grown in this country are bloody awfull and most of them have been in cold storage for months or even over a year before they get to consumers.
The producers know they will have to lift their game or they will lose most of their market to better tasting, fresher and cheaper apples from across the ditch.
I never feel sorry for industries that take their markets for granted and deliver a third rate product at a first class price.

Oh you mean apples raised on antibiotics and pesticides, to combat their rampant Fire Blight diseased apple industry?

lol Grin

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Gillard is Like Eve, in the garden of eden tempting Key with her promise of an Apple trade in exchange for his willingness to back her NBN co.

Cheesy

Just Gold!

Once Kiwis find out about a NBN, then observe their already low employment slump even further due to jobs going off shore to telecommunication centrers with lighting fast internet....they might have second thoughts.

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And remember....there's always a hitch across the ditch!

Gillard has absolutely no regard for either NZ or Australia.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #78 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:23pm Perhaps someone should warn them?
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Reply #79 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

mellie, our apple industry will only be decimated if the producers continue selling over priced and shoddy products to consumers.
Like all other industries that have no protectionist veil to shield them from international competition they will soon learn to lift their game and in fact the truth is new businesses always start up and grow rapidly when protectionist policies are lifted.
If our present growers wont compete on the international market there is a line up of new talent just waiting to take over from them, this is true of every industry in this country.

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Reply #80 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:32pm

Frankly I am always amazed that so many self proclaimed conservatives on this forum seem to support the out dated socialist doctorin of Protectionism.
For the long term growth of a countries wealth and economy it does not work, it has never worked and it never will work.
All it is, is an expensive way to assure mediocrity.

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Reply #81 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:40pm

What do our fruit producers already do?
They export their best fruit overseas and sell their third rate leftovers into the Australian market at the same prices they get for the first rate export quality produce that we never see.
The apple growers do not want this cosy little arrangment to end and fire blight is just one of the many lame excuses our producers have used for years.
It is easy to treat fruit for fire blight and the producers know that to be a fact.

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Reply #82 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:45pm

Its quite simple, apples that come from New Zealand will be marked as such and so consumers will have a choice.
If consumers do not want to buy fruit that has been treated for fire blight given that Australian grown fruit has also been sprayed with pesticides, fungicides etc then they can make that decision when they are confronted with the choice at their greengrocers
If that is the case then the Australian producers have nothing to worry about.

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Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal
Reply #83 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:47pm

90% of Australian grown apples are for the domestic market adele.

I was looking to see what effect the apple industry was having on the Aussie economy, all I could find in limited time was that in 2001/2002 it contributed $328 million to the Australian economy. I would think that figure would have increased by now.

I will support the Aussie growers, they are being ripped off by the wholesalers and supermarkets.

If you are getting shoddy fruit, I suggest you try another supplier/shop. We buy ours from a dedicated fruit and veg shop and they are always very nice.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #84 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:48pm Im not to sure what the NBN has to do with New Zealand apples or free trade for that matter. I consider free trade much to important to play politics with, it should be bi partisan
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Reply #85 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:17pm

Paging Dr Bob Brown....

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Listen to what she said....

Click the little white arrow on the left of this Mp3 audio bar...

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Make sure you listen to it right to the end.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2011/02/17/3141576.htm?site=goulburnmurray

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #86 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:21pm mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:23pm: Perhaps someone should warn them? you should do those tests, cods!
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40940 Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #87 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:24pm here is the left, destroying another industry we have had
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Aussey Farmers furious over Gillards apple deal Reply #88 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:30pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:24pm: here is the left, destroying another industry we have had This from the guy who loves the party that wants to rip money out of the car industry?
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