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Reply #165 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:43pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:39pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:28pm:
Well, it's not REALLY as good is it?

I mean, some people say it is, but they only say that to avoid offending those who are too selfish to breast feed.  Thankfully, I have no such qualms about calling a spade a spade.



Yes, it is not REALLY as good - but there are many reasons why women don't breast feed and 'selfishness' is not as high on the list as you might assume...




PS Both of my children were breast-fed for over 18 months.




the midwives told me that no, there is no reason why any woman can't breastfeed, so long as they persist with it...But she was probably a misogynist, or didn't know what she was talking about.
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Reply #166 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:45pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:36pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:50pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
So what exactly is the difference between Angelina Jolie, feeding HER adopted child on formula, and Elton John, feeding HIS adopted child on formula????



The difference is Angelina Jolie feeds her children, not like Elton who says, and I repeat ALL it needs is love and nurturing.

It might seem obvious to you and I, but who know what the decades of drug abuse have done to his noggin?




LOL, Wes...dare I suggest that it could be your noggin that is malfunctioning or is otherwise deficient...!?

Seriously, what is it with the literal linear thinking!?

Either you do not have the lateral capacity to interpret metaphors and extrapolate - or you think it is funny to pretend not to...








But I was just trying to fit in - I thought that seizing on every frivolous idiosyncracy to score a point was the done thing on this site....
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Reply #167 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:58pm
 
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:41pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:36pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:50pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
So what exactly is the difference between Angelina Jolie, feeding HER adopted child on formula, and Elton John, feeding HIS adopted child on formula????



The difference is Angelina Jolie feeds her children, not like Elton who says, and I repeat ALL it needs is love and nurturing.

It might seem obvious to you and I, but who know what the decades of drug abuse have done to his noggin?




HOW does Angelina 'feed' her children, when she hasn't been pregnant???

Angelina uses exactly the same 'method' to feed her kids, as Elton John does.......Formula...



No no elton, was quite clear
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it needs is love and nurturing.  Show me where he mentions food, clothing, shelter...
But Iit's to be expected - decades of cocaine abuse, and the onset of senile dementia can give a man strange ideas about children exisitng on love alone.


It doesn't work Wesley....Any woman who adopts a child must use the very same method of feeding that a man who adopts a child uses....

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Reply #168 - Feb 24th, 2011 at 6:01pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:58pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:41pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 5:36pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:50pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
So what exactly is the difference between Angelina Jolie, feeding HER adopted child on formula, and Elton John, feeding HIS adopted child on formula????



The difference is Angelina Jolie feeds her children, not like Elton who says, and I repeat ALL it needs is love and nurturing.

It might seem obvious to you and I, but who know what the decades of drug abuse have done to his noggin?




HOW does Angelina 'feed' her children, when she hasn't been pregnant???

Angelina uses exactly the same 'method' to feed her kids, as Elton John does.......Formula...



No no elton, was quite clear
ALL
it needs is love and nurturing.  Show me where he mentions food, clothing, shelter...
But Iit's to be expected - decades of cocaine abuse, and the onset of senile dementia can give a man strange ideas about children exisitng on love alone.


It doesn't work Wesley....Any woman who adopts a child must use the very same method of feeding that a man who adopts a child uses....




LOL....Unless they don't feed it anything but love and nurturing...after all isn't that ALL a child needs?  Well, that's what elton reckons anyhoo...
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Reply #169 - Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:19pm
 
A respectable black couple from Derby, England, called Mr. and Mrs. Johns, wanted to foster a child aged between 5 and 10. In the 1990s, they had already successfully fostered 15 such children and now, after a break, wanted to resume.

However, there was a stumbling block. No one ever suggested that they were other than decent and compassionate people; but, being evangelical Christians, they answered questions put to them by a social worker about homosexuality in a way that was deemed unacceptable. They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality; they said that they did not think that homosexuality was morally neutral, believing it rather to be against the laws of God; and they admitted quite openly that they would not change their minds about this. On the other hand, they said that they would treat an individual homosexual with kindness: no doubt an attitude thought condescending.

The Derby social services and Mr. and Mrs. Johns went to court to seek advance clarification of the legal position should the Johns be denied the opportunity to foster children on the grounds that they did not fulfill their obligation to be non-discriminatory towards homosexuals and homosexuality.

Contrary to impressions given in many reports in the press, the court declined to rule; it said that the case was purely hypothetical, Mrs. and Mrs. Johns had not yet been denied the right to foster, and the court did not consider merely hypothetical cases. It therefore did not rule either that Mr. and Mrs. Johns had, or had not, the right to foster.

However, it did say that Christian views were entitled to no special protection in England (notwithstanding the fact that there is, at least for now, an established church). The law stated that the principle of diversity, under which various, though presumably not quite all, moral viewpoints were entitled to equal legal consideration and protection, was legally paramount, and therefore Christians were not illegally discriminated against if or when they were denied the opportunity to foster because they refused to teach their child that homosexuality was not morally inferior to heterosexuality. In such a case they would not be discriminated against religiously (religious discrimination being itself illegal), but correctly prevented from discriminating illegally against homosexuals. In other words, you can have any opinion you like, so long as it is ours.

I’ve known saner lunatic asylums than this. Surely any sensible person, religious or otherwise, would simply say ‘The Johns are very good people, they have an excellent record of fostering young children who need fostering: finita la commedia.’        

But no: in the modern world everything must be codified, and everyone must conform in the name of diversity. Let the heavens fall, so long as the boxes have been ticked
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/261698/dismaying-johns-fostering-case-antho...
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Reply #170 - Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:35pm
 
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They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality






These are UNFIT PARENTS



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Reply #171 - Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:45pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:35pm:
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They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality






These are UNFIT PARENTS






As I said, 40 years ago assophilia asked to be tolerated. Now it has to be liked - or else.

Kids adopted by inverts - every day they must feel like a bastard on fathers' day.


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Reply #172 - Mar 15th, 2011 at 11:06pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:45pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 15th, 2011 at 10:35pm:
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They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality






These are UNFIT PARENTS






As I said, 40 years ago assophilia asked to be tolerated. Now it has to be liked - or else.






Let's change a word, or two, shall we ?



"They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a
Jewish
child because of his
Jewishness
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I MEAN - according to Christians - aren't all Jews HELL-BOUND ?

"No one comes to the Father except through me."
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Reply #173 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:44am
 
"they said that they would treat an individual Jew with kindness"

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Reply #174 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:46am
 
Soren wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:44am:
"they said that they would treat an individual Jew with kindness"






They just won't allow them in HEAVEN




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Reply #175 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 10:47am
 
The church of political correctness decrees:

Thou shalt not have thine own opinions except those decreed by the church.
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Reply #176 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 10:55am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:46am:
Soren wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 9:44am:
"they said that they would treat an individual Jew with kindness"






They just won't allow them in HEAVEN







What? Now you want to go to heaven as well???
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Reply #177 - Mar 20th, 2011 at 12:46am
 
The more that someone appeals to evilbible.com the more they discredit themselves as evilbible.com is saturated with fallacies of every sort and has been discredited.

Check out “Evilbible.com – accurate or fallacious?”

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Reply #178 - Mar 25th, 2011 at 12:31pm
 
I personally dislike homosexuals. I don't care what they do, as long as they keep away from me. Don't care if they marry whatever, but when it comes to children, I petty any child subjected to such sociological experimentation.

I am afraid I believe in the evolutionary model for raising children- a man and a woman.

Gay rights all the way, except I don't want to be exposed to gay sex acts, and I think the rights of children override the rights of gays.
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Reply #179 - Mar 25th, 2011 at 1:59pm
 
MoreKavaPlease wrote on Mar 25th, 2011 at 12:31pm:
I personally dislike homosexuals. I don't care what they do, as long as they keep away from me. Don't care if they marry whatever, but when it comes to children, I petty any child subjected to such sociological experimentation.

I am afraid I believe in the evolutionary model for raising children- a man and a woman.

Gay rights all the way, except I don't want to be exposed to gay sex acts, and I think the rights of children override the rights of gays.


That's interesting Kava, since in most primitive societies the 'model' was children raised by the whole tribe....
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