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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #15 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 7:50am

sandysquirrel18 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 7:32am:

Hello Sandy.....this pole would not of course take into account Tony Abbott being pole axed by CH 7 last week.....Or his alternative budget cuts....Or the split within the party over the last week.....However if Abbott survives this he might just become PM one day.....Labor need to lift its game and start delivering something that actually works!!!.......philperth
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Hi phil, it appears that the polls were taken after the above events.................."The national poll, taken Thursday to Saturday, came at the end of a difficult week for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott, with leaks about a row with his deputy, Julie Bishop, and controversy over remarks he made in Afghanistan last year"......http://www.theage.com.au/national/coalition-surges-to-decisive-lead-20110213-1as26.html

As I said earlier, Labor are in big trouble as I think that Gillard will be committing political suicide when she tries to bring in her precious Carbon Tax, you know, the tax she stated she wouldn't introduce under her Gov't.

Time is running out for Gillard/Labor and they need to get their act together quick smart.............can they do it? Not from past performances they can't

gillard is doing so much damage.. dont you think people or sick to death of the backflips..nothing she says can be taken for granted.. it all changes... and thats everything.

the staff must be going in circles..

how can you trust someone who goes to the polls with "there will be No Carbon Tax with my govt".. just to say the opposite a few weeks later??

I have lost complete trust in anything they say to be honest..and that kind of puts me off all pollies..

now we have a system whereby the ones that got the least votes have all the bloody POWER.. nothing makes sense to me any more.

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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #16 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 12:42am:

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C'mon now buzz, don't forget to tell us that this is another 'rogue' poll

You're a little

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That was Gary Morgan's (of Morgan Research) phrase
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I have never used it

You used it for a polls several weeks before newspoll used the term. And the biggest laugh is that he was wrong too! it was NOT a rogue result as it was confirmed by other polls.

But interesting that you dont comment on polls like this now!

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead Reply #17 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:02am Quote: Can someone tell me when the next federal election is?. Oh yes that's right. 2013 isn't it. with the current unstable parliament it could be next month.
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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead Reply #18 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:04am longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:02am: Quote: Can someone tell me when the next federal election is?. Oh yes that's right. 2013 isn't it. with the current unstable parliament it could be next month. LOL next week longy
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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #19 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:04am

Hi cods, I agree with you 100%. For someone to LIE as much as Gillard and Rudd have done means that they have no credibility or integrity. As for Policy backflips, Peter Garrett's words will always ring in my ears...."we'll just change everything when we are in power".

I think Australia's 'preferential' voting system stinks. One only needs to look at the current Labor/Green alliance. Labor hates the Greens, but then Labor can only ever get in power with those very same Green preferences. How is Gizzard going to keep Bobby happy, or more to the point, that weirdo Christine Milne? Gillard has shot herself well and truly in the foot by forming the GALP alliance.

Ruddles has had another hissy fit and it is just a matter of time before the leaks begin again methinks

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead Reply #20 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:06am Gillard would probably take the record as the least honest PM we've ever had. Absolutely nothing she says is of any worth. Backflips are her standard behaviour. And she is a complete liar to add to the mix. She is a disgrace to the office.
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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #22 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:10am

sandysquirrel18 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:04am:

Hi cods, I agree with you 100%. For someone to LIE as much as Gillard and Rudd have done means that they have no credibility or integrity. As for Policy backflips, Peter Garrett's words will always ring in my ears...."we'll just change everything when we are in power".

I think Australia's 'preferential' voting system stinks. One only needs to look at the current Labor/Green alliance. Labor hates the Greens, but then Labor can only ever get in power with those very same Green preferences. How is Gizzard going to keep Bobby happy, or more to the point, that weirdo Christine Milne? Gillard has shot herself well and truly in the foot by forming the GALP alliance.

Ruddles has had another hissy fit and it is just a matter of time before the leaks begin again methinks

to right sandy.. rudds out there doing what he likes, undermining the govt.. we should be happy but I am not.. because whatever damage or promises he makes will flow on to us..hes a loose canon if ever there was one..and hes got $4.5 billion in his wallet..great!

as for the power of the greens well we will see it for what its worth in July I guess.gillard is now the bendy figure of politics.. whatever it takes she will bend...she cant afford not too.hey not only does she backflip she does a high wire balancing act as well..

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Reply #23 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:11am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 12:42am:

Quote:

C'mon now buzz, don't forget to tell us that this is another 'rogue' poll

You're a little

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That was Gary Morgan's (of Morgan Research) phrase
Repeated by Longweekend - attributing it to myself - incorrectly
I have never used it

You used it for a polls several weeks before newspoll used the term. And the biggest laugh is that he was wrong too! it was NOT a rogue result as it was confirmed by other polls.

But interesting that you dont comment on polls like this now!

Why do you even comment longweekend?

Wasn't the intent of your lies and misrepresentations to shut buzz down?

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sandysquirrel18 Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143	Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead Reply #24 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:11am Keep trying ernie, keep trying
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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #26 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:21am

Please delete wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 12:42am:

Quote:

C'mon now buzz, don't forget to tell us that this is another 'rogue' poll

You're a little

CONFUSED

That was Gary Morgan's (of Morgan Research) phrase
Repeated by Longweekend - attributing it to myself - incorrectly
I have never used it

You used it for a polls several weeks before newspoll used the term. And the biggest laugh is that he was wrong too! it was NOT a rogue result as it was confirmed by other polls.

But interesting that you dont comment on polls like this now!

Why do you even comment longweekend?

Wasn't the intent of your lies and misrepresentations to shut buzz down?

Since you werent even around at the time of the 'rogue poll' debate on yahoo, your opinion is pretty worthless. Buzz spent 2 years loudly proclaiming labors great polls and predicting the demise of the Liberal party. But as soon as the polls turned - as they always did - he became bitter and angry. and you only need to see his lenghthy meltdown thread to see it still in full operation. The fortunes of the two parties ebb and flow and always have. at the moment it is the Coalition in ascendancy.

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Re: Abbott takes election-winning lead
Reply #28 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:24am

"Since you werent even around at the time of the 'rogue poll' debate on yahoo, your opinion is pretty worthless. Buzz spent 2 years loudly proclaiming labors great polls and predicting the demise of the Liberal party. But as soon as the polls turned - as they always did - he became bitter and angry. and you only need to see his lenghthy meltdown thread to see it still in full operation. The fortunes of the two parties ebb and flow and always have. at the moment it is the Coalition in ascendancy. "

I was there, and I watched you lie and connive, as you do in most arguments.

You saying polls didn't matter when Rudd was 10 points ahead, and then becoming a passionate adherent when the numbers narrowed.

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Reply #29 - Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:26am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:22am:

Please delete wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:18am:

sandysquirrel18 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

Keep trying ernie, keep trying Cheesy

I will. Nothing else to do, except try to balance the BS from your side.

you mean the BS from ALL the polls that put abbot easily in the laad?

Answer honestly, longweekend - has anyone said the polls aren't accurate?

Does that mean Abbott is a good man, or would make a good PM? More BS.

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