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Re: Cyclone Yasi
Reply #90 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:36pm
 

mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:30pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:14pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:07pm:
The journalists duty is to reflect the feeling of those they are interviewing, not stifle public attitude, opinion, and or concern,  in order to pander to a certain dry sleeved politicians apparent mismanagement.

PC or not, these people are terrified.

And journalists are people too.

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Bollox! Terrified or not, they have a responsibility to present a balanced view of the facts known to them - and the title and opening paragraph did not represent the facts!




Balance? Under a Labor dictated commy press?

Get real!

One of my closest friends mother and sister live in Cairns, however they are presently in Canberra, looking after a relative, (left weeks ago)...so I will be very interested in hearing off my close friend, what the general feeling of the community is upon their return after the cyclone.

And I wont be stifling my views as soon as I get feedback.

Rest assured.

Smiley


Yer, well...we wouldn't be expecting you to take an objective perspective on anything that could be exploited for partisan advantage in favour of your beloved Libs...


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Reply #91 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:42pm
 
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Bollox! Terrified or not, they have a responsibility to present a balanced view of the facts known to them - and the title and opening paragraph did not represent the facts!



Prior experience has found that the media will trot out their talking heads and "experts" who will often give conflicting information while their reporters will usually just look for the most sensationalist angle.

That's why the disaster management guidelines now dictate that someone like the Premier is used as the primary source of information and directives.
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Reply #92 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:45pm
 
It's absolutely terrible for Queensland to be inflicted by two such terrible natural occurences in such a brief period of time. This is terrible and I very much hope that our government will be able to handle it as competently as they are able to. As much as I dislike our ruling class, we can only hope, for the people of Queensland's sake, that we'll be putting away petty partisan squabbles for this event, which will be most greatly facilitated by a united front. I'll gladly pay a disaster relief tax to get the region back on its feet.
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Reply #93 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:50pm
 
I don't care about your 'official' news bulletin, (I am watching the news myself)... my primary concern rests with those clearly experiencing some degree of anxiety at present, be it rationalised or otherwise.

If it's a case of irresponsible reporting, or a few panic merchant locals being a little theatrical, then perhaps their fears need to be laid to rest?
Personally, I think a more uncensored and 'balanced' approach is best, particularly if their fears are justified.

Be aware of our inherent "she'll  be right mate quality"...so if these locals are truly concerned, then I am inclined to think that perhaps we should be too.

We are a proud robust race, and not inclined to 'exaggerate' normally, if anything, we generally play these things down, so....

Why are family's sitting on pink-suitcases out in the street with young children without shelter feeling anxious after having been turned away by others entrusted with the duty of sheltering tourists?

Why are these shelters already full?







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Reply #94 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:52pm
 

Wow, Yasi is predicted to have more powerful winds and more rainfall than cyclones/hurricanes Larry, Katrina and Tracey - and Yasi dwarfs all but Katrina...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/cyclone-season-2010-2011/cyclone_compari...

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Reply #95 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:53pm
 
Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology
Queensland
Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre


Media: Transmitters serving the area from Cape Flattery to Sarina and inland to
Georgetown are requested to USE the Standard Emergency Warning Signal before
broadcasting the following warning.

TOP PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
Issued at 3:54pm EST on Wednesday the 2nd of February 2011

A Cyclone WARNING is current for coastal and island communities from Cape
Flattery to Sarina, extending inland to Julia Creek and to the area west of
Croydon.

A Cyclone WATCH is current for the remaining inland parts west to the Northern
Territory border and north of Winton.

At 4:00 pm EST Severe Tropical Cyclone Yasi, Category 5 was estimated to be 250
kilometres east of Cairns and 275 kilometres north northeast of Townsville and
moving west southwest at 35 kilometres per hour.

SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE YASI IS A LARGE AND VERY POWERFUL TROPICAL CYCLONE AND
POSES AN EXTREMELY SERIOUS THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY WITHIN THE WARNING AREA,
ESPECIALLY BETWEEN CAIRNS AND TOWNSVILLE.


DURING THE EVENING, THE VERY DESTRUCTIVE CORE OF CYCLONE YASI WILL CROSS THE
COAST BETWEEN CAIRNS AND INGHAM, ACCOMPANIED BY A DANGEROUS STORM TIDE SOUTH OF
THE CYCLONE CENTRE.

Tropical Cyclone Yasi, CATEGORY 5, will continue to move in a west-southwesterly
direction. The cyclone is expected to cross the coast between Innisfail and
Cardwell about 11 pm EST.

Coastal residents within the warning area, and particularly between Cairns and
Proserpine including the Whitsundays, are specifically warned of an EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS SEA LEVEL RISE [i.e. storm tide] as the cyclone approaches, crosses
the coast and moves inland. The sea is likely to steadily rise up to a level
which will be VERY DANGEROUSLY above the normal tide, with EXTREMELY DAMAGING
WAVES, STRONG CURRENTS and FLOODING of low-lying areas extending some way
inland. The storm tide will persist for many hours after landfall of the cyclone
and secondary peaks may occur around high tide on Thursday morning.

People living in areas likely to be affected by this flooding should take
measures to protect their property as much as possible, and be prepared to
follow instructions regarding evacuation of the area if advised to do so by
authorities.

DAMAGING WINDS with gusts to 90 km/h are currently affecting the coast and
islands, and are forecast to spread into the tropical interior overnight and
west to Julia Creek during Thursday.

Between Port Douglas and Ayr these winds will become DESTRUCTIVE with gusts in
excess of 125 km/h developing during this afternoon and early evening, spreading
into the tropical interior overnight. VERY DESTRUCTIVE winds with gusts up to
290 km/h are expected to develop between Cairns and Ingham during the evening as
the cyclone approaches and crosses the coast. These VERY DESTRUCTIVE winds will
also occur north of the cyclone and affect the Atherton Tablelands.

Due to the large size of the cyclone, people in the path of the VERY DESTRUCTIVE
WINDS are likely to experience these conditions for about 3 to 4 hours.

Winds are forecast to gradually ease about the east coast during Thursday
morning as the cyclone moves inland.

FLOODING RAINS will develop from Cooktown to Sarina during the afternoon and
then extend inland overnight.

People between Cape Flattery and Sarina, extending inland to Julia Creek and to
the area west of Croydon should complete preparations quickly and be prepared to
shelter in a safe place.
- Boats and outside property should be secured.
- For cyclone preparedness and safety advice, visit Queensland's Disaster
Management Services website [www.disaster.qld.gov.au]
- For emergency assistance call the Queensland State Emergency Service [SES] on
132 500 [for assistance with storm damage, rising flood water, fallen trees on
buildings or roof damage].

People about the remaining inland parts west to the Northern Territory border
and north of Winton should consider what action they will need to take if the
cyclone threat increases.
- Information is available from your local government
- For cyclone preparedness and safety advice, visit Queensland's Disaster
Management Services website [www.disaster.qld.gov.au]
- For emergency assistance call the Queensland State Emergency Service [SES] on
132 500 [for assistance with storm damage, rising flood water, fallen trees on
buildings or roof damage].

Details of Severe Tropical Cyclone Yasi at 4:00 pm EST:
.Centre located near...... 17.1 degrees South 148.1 degrees East
.Location accuracy........ within 30 kilometres
.Recent movement.......... towards the west southwest at 35 kilometres per hour
.Wind gusts near centre... 285 kilometres per hour
.Severity category........ 5
.Central pressure......... 930 hectoPascals


Please ensure that neighbours have heard and understood this message,
particularly new arrivals or those who may not fully understand English.

The next advice will be issued by 5:00 pm EST Wednesday 02 February.

This warning is also available through TV and Radio Broadcasts; the Bureau's
website at www.bom.gov.au or call 1300 659 212.  The Bureau and the State
Emergency Service would appreciate this warning being broadcast regularly.

Link -
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQP0005.txt
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Reply #96 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:54pm
 
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This is terrible and I very much hope that our government will be able to handle it as competently as they are able to.
-Imperium.

We are talking about Anna Bligh here, furthermore, Gillard herself has already 'officially' announced this will be the biggest cyclone Australia has ever seen.

So.... no wonder people are anxious!

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Reply #97 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:55pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:50pm:
I don't care about your 'official' news bulletin, (I am watching the news myself)... my primary concern rests with those clearly experiencing some degree of anxiety at present, be it rationalised or otherwise.

If it's a case of irresponsible reporting, or a few panic merchant locals being a little theatrical, then perhaps their fears need to be laid to rest?
Personally, I think a more uncensored and 'balanced' approach is best, particularly if their fears are justified.

Be aware of our inherent "she'll  be right mate quality"...so if these locals are truly concerned, then I am inclined to think that perhaps we should be too.

We are a proud robust race, and not inclined to 'exaggerate' normally, if anything, we generally play these things down, so....

Why are family's sitting on pink-suitcases out in the street with young children without shelter feeling anxious after having been turned away by others entrusted with the duty of sheltering tourists?

Why are these shelters already full?









Again!

It comes down to individual 'perception' I guess.

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Reply #98 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:56pm
 
Seems my parents-in-law are riding it out.

Though he is not happy with this tree next to the house which he has told his neighbor ("a smacking Victorian") for the last 5 years to have cut down........

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Reply #99 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:04pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:42pm:
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Bollox! Terrified or not, they have a responsibility to present a balanced view of the facts known to them - and the title and opening paragraph did not represent the facts!



Prior experience has found that the media will trot out their talking heads and "experts" who will often give conflicting information while their reporters will usually just look for the most sensationalist angle.

That's why the disaster management guidelines now dictate that someone like the Premier is used as the primary source of information and directives.


Perhaps, but are you prepared to take this chance?

This and stop concerning /writing about the matter, this and are prepared to leave a number of indigenous communities well-being in the hands of Anna Bligh.

Ps..  They just put it across the News, people , black woman with babies in their arms are crying, telling reporters they hope they get a place in a shelter soon.

So..time you changed the channel I think.  Channel 7.

So much for your talking head theory eh?!

Cool Perhaps they employed some indigenous actresses?

Innisfail!!
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Reply #100 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:11pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:56pm:
Seems my parents-in-law are riding it out.

Though he is not happy with this tree next to the house which he has told his neighbor ("a smacking Victorian") for the last 5 years to have cut down........



I think it might be time to have a chat with your in-laws...alert them to the possibility of their media intentionally playing this down due to there being a lack of shelter.

Like always, we left it too late...

It turned into a Cat 5 over night, and is gaining momentum.

Be aware, many of these communities are still recovering from the dread of Cyclone Larry, so knowing this one will be much worse, would be quite terrifying I assume?

Why are these shelters filled with back-packers?

Bit of a Titanic, 3rd class life-raft phenomena perhaps?

I hope this is not the case.

And hope they are all pretending to be terrified and lining up out the front of shelters with screaming kids too.



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Reply #101 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:12pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:54pm:
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This is terrible and I very much hope that our government will be able to handle it as competently as they are able to.
-Imperium.

We are talking about Anna Bligh here, furthermore, Gillard herself has already 'officially' announced this will be the biggest cyclone Australia has ever seen.

So.... no wonder people are anxious!



Mellie,
In this instance, if one was to err, it would be better to err on the side of overstating, than understating , the magnitude of the problem.

This is something much bigger than has been seen, in the modern Australian era.

Particularly, when considering that I believe that when the last categoy 5 cyclone hit Queensland in 1918, the total Australian Population was under 5 million and now the current Population of Queensland is over 4.6 million, this is a much greater problem being faced today!
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Reply #102 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:15pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:11pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:56pm:
Seems my parents-in-law are riding it out.

Though he is not happy with this tree next to the house which he has told his neighbor ("a smacking Victorian") for the last 5 years to have cut down........



I think it might be time to have a chat with your in-laws...alert them to the possibility of their media intentionally playing this down due to there being a lack of shelter.

Like always, we left it too late...

It turned into a Cat 5 over night, and is gaining momentum.

Be aware, many of these communities are still recovering from the dread of Cyclone Larry, so knowing this one will be much worse, would be quite terrifying I assume?

Why are these shelters filled with back-packers?

Bit of a Titanic, 3rd class life-raft phenomena perhaps?

I hope this is not the case.

And hope they are all pretending to be terrified and lining up out the front of shelters with screaming kids too.





Having been watching some of the reports, particularly channel 7, I must say, your comment is entirely in-accurate!

The media is certainly not, playing it down.

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Reply #103 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:18pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:12pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:54pm:
Quote:
This is terrible and I very much hope that our government will be able to handle it as competently as they are able to.
-Imperium.

We are talking about Anna Bligh here, furthermore, Gillard herself has already 'officially' announced this will be the biggest cyclone Australia has ever seen.

So.... no wonder people are anxious!



Mellie,
In this instance, if one was to err, it would be better to err on the side of overstating, than understating , the magnitude of the problem.

This is something much bigger than has been seen, in the modern Australian era.

Particularly, when considering that I believe that when the last categoy 5 cyclone hit Queensland in 1918, the total Australian Population was under 5 million and now the current Population of Queensland is over 4.6 million, this is a much greater problem being faced today!


I understand exactly what you are saying, but if there is something 'more' we could be doing, though are for some reason or another, holding back...I think I'd rather be reporting on the other side of the 'eer'..  better to be safe than sorry, yes?

Tracy was a perfect example, of how people 'under--panic'...including our government when it came to evacuation.

A day late, and a dollar short...  that's our Anna Bligh.



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Mellie,
In this instance, if one was to err, it would be better to err on the side of overstating, than understating , the magnitude of the problem.
I agree!
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Reply #104 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 5:21pm
 
All the best to everyone in Queensland and lets all hope there is no loss of life and as little damage as possible.
I cant imagine what the people there are going through but lets hope every Aussie does everything they can to help as this new disaster unfolds.
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