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Reply #75 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:00pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 11:10am:
My father-in-law has that many nails and bolts in his roof in Mundingburra that if the roof goes, it will take the house with it.

He has gone on endlessly to me about a cyclone in the 70's (Eleuthera?) and how people have forgotten it.
In fact he endlessly talks about how so many of the trees etc have been allowed to become a serious hazard around Townsville.

This may be the hour he is proved right?



Yeh I remember 'Althea' back in '72 well I remember my parents talking about it.  Smiley

Ours won't be a wind problem as much as a surge problem.

But Ill let your know tommorow, if I can.

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Reply #76 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:05pm
 
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sea temps of 30C plus  isn't the 'norm' then, is it ?




Veg, our water is pee warm most of the time. Winter temps are about 28 deg and summer a coupla degrees warmer than that. It's the tropics the water is warm.

How warm, I have no idea, mostly cause I don't check.

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Reply #77 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:50pm
 
Frightened Australian cyclone evacuees turned away


Feb 2 (Reuters) - Australian police turned people away from jammed evacuation shelters on Wednesday as a huge cyclone neared the northeast coast, leaving many to wait outside in the open, praying police will relent and squeeze them in before the storm arrives.

Cyclone Yasi is the most dangerous cyclone to come ashore in Australia in a century, forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes and overwhelm cyclone shelters which are already refuge to more than 10,000.

At a shopping centre which serves as a shelter in Cairns, a tourist city destined to feel Yasi's wrath within hours, Selwyn Hughes stood with his family in the uncovered carpark and said his only comfort for the moment was in numbers.

"There are so many of us here. Surely they have to do something, find somewhere safer to move us to before it arrives," Hughes said, squatting on a pink suitcase with his five children, aged two to 13.

The family's only possessions were a small box of food, including a tin of powdered milk, and clothes and a pram for two-year-old daughter Minoota.

Around them 80 others sat on the ground and shared advice or sympathy.

At a steel barrier gate, four police guarded entry to a ramp up to a cinema complex being used as a rooftop entry point to the makeshift cyclone shelter, as grey clouds swirled and winds whistled over fences and rooftops.

"It's making it very difficult. We're disappointed we can't take any more people in, but I've been through in there and it's just not safe," said acting police inspector John Bosnjak.

Inside, more than 2,000 people lay in front of shuttered shops and foodcourts, or sat on empty tables, while children played on moving walkways.

All seven evacuations centres set up in the region have reached capacity ahead of Yasi's arrival, filled also by hundreds of foreign backpackers sent away from usually thriving waterfront hostels.

Around 30,000 people in low-lying suburbs evacuated their homes and poured into the centres when doors opened at about 6 am, or bunkered down in the homes of friends at the urging of the government, helping ease the strain on shelters.

Others joined a stream of traffic heading south.

Cairns Mayor Val Schier advised residents to batten down in their own homes, while last-minute preparations were also being made to open an eighth shelter and move people there by bus.

The last category 5 cyclone to hit the Queensland coast was in 1918. That storm killed almost 90 people.

Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/australia-cyclone-evacuation-idUSL3E7D...
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I earnestly hope that the relevant authorities communication skills improve, in a hell of a hurry, and these people & any others looking for shelter, can be accommodated, prior to the worse of this cyclone hitting, later today!

Our communications & delivery of services, need to be a lot better than this!
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Reply #78 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:57pm
 
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Feb 2 (Reuters) - Australian police turned people away from jammed evacuation shelters on Wednesday as a huge cyclone neared the northeast coast, leaving many to wait outside in the open, praying police will relent and squeeze them in before the storm arrives.


Look, ok, Queenslanders are an annoying bunch, with their big Pineapple and even bigger 'KRudd', but hey, I think mass-extinctions a bit harsh!

Damn right they had best get a move on, and help these people, it's getting rather scary and it hasn't even hit yet.

A super-storm even!

And of course, this will dispel the myth that AGW was nothing more than political smegma.

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Reply #79 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:59pm
 

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:50pm:
Frightened Australian cyclone evacuees turned away


Feb 2 (Reuters) - Australian police turned people away from jammed evacuation shelters on Wednesday as a huge cyclone neared the northeast coast, leaving many to wait outside in the open, praying police will relent and squeeze them in before the storm arrives.

Cyclone Yasi is the most dangerous cyclone to come ashore in Australia in a century, forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes and overwhelm cyclone shelters which are already refuge to more than 10,000.

At a shopping centre which serves as a shelter in Cairns, a tourist city destined to feel Yasi's wrath within hours, Selwyn Hughes stood with his family in the uncovered carpark and said his only comfort for the moment was in numbers.

"There are so many of us here. Surely they have to do something, find somewhere safer to move us to before it arrives," Hughes said, squatting on a pink suitcase with his five children, aged two to 13.

The family's only possessions were a small box of food, including a tin of powdered milk, and clothes and a pram for two-year-old daughter Minoota.

Around them 80 others sat on the ground and shared advice or sympathy.

At a steel barrier gate, four police guarded entry to a ramp up to a cinema complex being used as a rooftop entry point to the makeshift cyclone shelter, as grey clouds swirled and winds whistled over fences and rooftops.

"It's making it very difficult. We're disappointed we can't take any more people in, but I've been through in there and it's just not safe," said acting police inspector John Bosnjak.

Inside, more than 2,000 people lay in front of shuttered shops and foodcourts, or sat on empty tables, while children played on moving walkways.

All seven evacuations centres set up in the region have reached capacity ahead of Yasi's arrival, filled also by hundreds of foreign backpackers sent away from usually thriving waterfront hostels.

Around 30,000 people in low-lying suburbs evacuated their homes and poured into the centres when doors opened at about 6 am, or bunkered down in the homes of friends at the urging of the government, helping ease the strain on shelters.

Others joined a stream of traffic heading south.

Cairns Mayor Val Schier advised residents to batten down in their own homes, while last-minute preparations were also being made to open an eighth shelter and move people there by bus.

The last category 5 cyclone to hit the Queensland coast was in 1918. That storm killed almost 90 people.

Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/australia-cyclone-evacuation-idUSL3E7D...
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I earnestly hope that the relevant authorities communication skills improve, in a hell of a hurry, and these people & any others looking for shelter, can be accommodated, prior to the worse of this cyclone hitting, later today!

Our communications & delivery of services, need to be a lot better than this!


The communication problem in that article was one of deliberate sensationalist misrepresentation of the facts in the title and opening paragraph - which were belied by the penultimate one!

I, for one, wish that certain journalists would act more responsibly and respectfully!

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Reply #80 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:02pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:59pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:50pm:
Frightened Australian cyclone evacuees turned away


Feb 2 (Reuters) - Australian police turned people away from jammed evacuation shelters on Wednesday as a huge cyclone neared the northeast coast, leaving many to wait outside in the open, praying police will relent and squeeze them in before the storm arrives.

Cyclone Yasi is the most dangerous cyclone to come ashore in Australia in a century, forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes and overwhelm cyclone shelters which are already refuge to more than 10,000.

At a shopping centre which serves as a shelter in Cairns, a tourist city destined to feel Yasi's wrath within hours, Selwyn Hughes stood with his family in the uncovered carpark and said his only comfort for the moment was in numbers.

"There are so many of us here. Surely they have to do something, find somewhere safer to move us to before it arrives," Hughes said, squatting on a pink suitcase with his five children, aged two to 13.

The family's only possessions were a small box of food, including a tin of powdered milk, and clothes and a pram for two-year-old daughter Minoota.

Around them 80 others sat on the ground and shared advice or sympathy.

At a steel barrier gate, four police guarded entry to a ramp up to a cinema complex being used as a rooftop entry point to the makeshift cyclone shelter, as grey clouds swirled and winds whistled over fences and rooftops.

"It's making it very difficult. We're disappointed we can't take any more people in, but I've been through in there and it's just not safe," said acting police inspector John Bosnjak.

Inside, more than 2,000 people lay in front of shuttered shops and foodcourts, or sat on empty tables, while children played on moving walkways.

All seven evacuations centres set up in the region have reached capacity ahead of Yasi's arrival, filled also by hundreds of foreign backpackers sent away from usually thriving waterfront hostels.

Around 30,000 people in low-lying suburbs evacuated their homes and poured into the centres when doors opened at about 6 am, or bunkered down in the homes of friends at the urging of the government, helping ease the strain on shelters.

Others joined a stream of traffic heading south.

Cairns Mayor Val Schier advised residents to batten down in their own homes, while last-minute preparations were also being made to open an eighth shelter and move people there by bus.

The last category 5 cyclone to hit the Queensland coast was in 1918. That storm killed almost 90 people.

Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/australia-cyclone-evacuation-idUSL3E7D...
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I earnestly hope that the relevant authorities communication skills improve, in a hell of a hurry, and these people & any others looking for shelter, can be accommodated, prior to the worse of this cyclone hitting, later today!

Our communications & delivery of services, need to be a lot better than this!


The communication problem in that article was one of deliberate sensationalist misrepresentation of the facts in the title and opening paragraph - which were belied by the penultimate one!

I, for one, wish that certain journalists would act more responsibly and respectfully!



Perhaps the journalist isn't happy with the evacuation protocol, could they be in the thick of it and are a little anxious, or disgruntled themselves with how this evacuation is being organised?

Could this be how the general feeling is up there at present?

Hard to say, given we are down here out of harms way.

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Reply #81 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:07pm
 
The journalists duty is to reflect the feeling of those they are interviewing, not stifle public attitude, opinion, and or concern,  in order to pander to a certain dry sleeved politicians apparent mismanagement.

PC or not, these people are terrified.

And journalists are people too.

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Reply #82 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:10pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:02pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:59pm:
The communication problem in that article was one of deliberate sensationalist misrepresentation of the facts in the title and opening paragraph - which were belied by the penultimate one!

I, for one, wish that certain journalists would act more responsibly and respectfully!



Perhaps the journalist isn't happy with the evacuation protocol, could they be in the thick of it and are a little anxious, or disgruntled themselves with how this evacuation is being organised?

Could this be how the general feeling is up there at present?

Hard to say, given we are down here out of harms way.



I don't care whether they're there in the thick of it or not - they are taking a dangerously sensationalist and dishonest approach (as is evidenced in the abridged version available here): -

http://blogs.reuters.com/rob-taylor/
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Reply #83 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:14pm
 

mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:07pm:
The journalists duty is to reflect the feeling of those they are interviewing, not stifle public attitude, opinion, and or concern,  in order to pander to a certain dry sleeved politicians apparent mismanagement.

PC or not, these people are terrified.

And journalists are people too.

Roll Eyes



Bollox! Terrified or not, they have a responsibility to present a balanced view of the facts known to them - and the title and opening paragraph did not represent the facts!

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Reply #84 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:15pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 2:04pm:
How Cyclone Yasi compares around the world


http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/02/02/1225998/738933-tc-yasi-superimpo...

IF you're struggling to grasp the magnitude of Tropical Cyclone Yasi, consider this: it is so large it would almost cover the United States, most of Asia and large parts of Europe.

Most of the coverage about the scale of Yasi has tried to compare it with storms of the past - it's bigger than Larry, more powerful than Tracy.

But just as powerful is this comparison, showing this storm is continental in size.  The main bloc of the cyclone is 500km wide, while its associated activity, shown above in a colour-coding to match intensity, stretches over 2000km.

The storm's scale of destruction is as shocking as it is inevitable.  In the map above, the United States from Pennsylvania in the east to Nevada in the west, from Georgia in the south to Canada in the north and well into Mexico would be battered with 300km/h winds and up to one metre of rain.

The economic impact would be felt around the world.

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http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-aroun...
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For perspective, particularly for our Amercian friends.



There's me.
About an inch to the left of the aqua blue bit on the bottom left.
La Jolla, California - even Perceptions cyclone misses us!! 

We do have a small matter of the San Andreas fault underneath us though.
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Reply #85 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:21pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:02pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:59pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 3:50pm:
Frightened Australian cyclone evacuees turned away


Feb 2 (Reuters) - Australian police turned people away from jammed evacuation shelters on Wednesday as a huge cyclone neared the northeast coast, leaving many to wait outside in the open, praying police will relent and squeeze them in before the storm arrives.

Cyclone Yasi is the most dangerous cyclone to come ashore in Australia in a century, forcing tens of thousands of people to evacuate their homes and overwhelm cyclone shelters which are already refuge to more than 10,000.

At a shopping centre which serves as a shelter in Cairns, a tourist city destined to feel Yasi's wrath within hours, Selwyn Hughes stood with his family in the uncovered carpark and said his only comfort for the moment was in numbers.

"There are so many of us here. Surely they have to do something, find somewhere safer to move us to before it arrives," Hughes said, squatting on a pink suitcase with his five children, aged two to 13.

The family's only possessions were a small box of food, including a tin of powdered milk, and clothes and a pram for two-year-old daughter Minoota.

Around them 80 others sat on the ground and shared advice or sympathy.

At a steel barrier gate, four police guarded entry to a ramp up to a cinema complex being used as a rooftop entry point to the makeshift cyclone shelter, as grey clouds swirled and winds whistled over fences and rooftops.

"It's making it very difficult. We're disappointed we can't take any more people in, but I've been through in there and it's just not safe," said acting police inspector John Bosnjak.

Inside, more than 2,000 people lay in front of shuttered shops and foodcourts, or sat on empty tables, while children played on moving walkways.

All seven evacuations centres set up in the region have reached capacity ahead of Yasi's arrival, filled also by hundreds of foreign backpackers sent away from usually thriving waterfront hostels.

Around 30,000 people in low-lying suburbs evacuated their homes and poured into the centres when doors opened at about 6 am, or bunkered down in the homes of friends at the urging of the government, helping ease the strain on shelters.

Others joined a stream of traffic heading south.

Cairns Mayor Val Schier advised residents to batten down in their own homes, while last-minute preparations were also being made to open an eighth shelter and move people there by bus.

The last category 5 cyclone to hit the Queensland coast was in 1918. That storm killed almost 90 people.

Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/australia-cyclone-evacuation-idUSL3E7D...
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I earnestly hope that the relevant authorities communication skills improve, in a hell of a hurry, and these people & any others looking for shelter, can be accommodated, prior to the worse of this cyclone hitting, later today!

Our communications & delivery of services, need to be a lot better than this!


The communication problem in that article was one of deliberate sensationalist misrepresentation of the facts in the title and opening paragraph - which were belied by the penultimate one!

I, for one, wish that certain journalists would act more responsibly and respectfully!



Perhaps the journalist isn't happy with the evacuation protocol, could they be in the thick of it and are a little anxious, or disgruntled themselves with how this evacuation is being organised?

Could this be how the general feeling is up there at present?

Hard to say, given we are down here out of harms way.


I hope you are correct and this apparent hic-cup has been resolved, satisfactorily!

However, if they were just turned away, without the police communicating their problem to a higher authority and in turn arrangements being put in place for these people, then that would be very un-satisfactory!
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Reply #86 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:22pm
 
Even one death, will be one more than Anna Bligh can afford, 'politically', so I suggest she puts-on her superwoman costume very quickly, if this reporter is not in anyway sensationalising, this and ensures the well being of not only our 'tourists', but our indigenous communities also.

Charity should begin at home!

Why isn't it?

Have they left it too late again?

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Reply #87 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:25pm
 
Turning people away like this (however early) results in unnecessary anxiety, and if this is the way of it, then the public need to know.

Last minute arrangements rarely go off without a hitch and or mass-panic.

Perhaps our thoughtful politicians should bear this in mind.





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Reply #88 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:30pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:14pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:07pm:
The journalists duty is to reflect the feeling of those they are interviewing, not stifle public attitude, opinion, and or concern,  in order to pander to a certain dry sleeved politicians apparent mismanagement.

PC or not, these people are terrified.

And journalists are people too.

Roll Eyes



Bollox! Terrified or not, they have a responsibility to present a balanced view of the facts known to them - and the title and opening paragraph did not represent the facts!




Balance? Under a Labor dictated commy press?

Get real!

One of my closest friends mother and sister live in Cairns, however they are presently in Canberra, looking after a relative, (left weeks ago)...so I will be very interested in hearing from my close friend, what the general feeling of the community is upon their return after the cyclone.

And I wont be stifling my views as soon as I get feedback.

Rest assured.

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Reply #89 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:33pm
 

mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:25pm:
Turning people away like this (however early) results in unnecessary anxiety, and if this is the way of it, then the public need to know.

Last minute arrangements rarely go off without a hitch and or mass-panic.

Perhaps our thoughtful politicians should bear this in mind.



Notwithstanding that, according to an official news bulletin I watched earlier, only a couple? of these evacuation centres are actually rated as cyclone-proof (and therefore that people may well be safer bunkering down in their own homes) - it is clear that the author of the article was making mischief with the wording of the title and opening paragraph.

FFS, in the penultimate paragraph, the journalist specifically mentions that buses were already being organised to take people to a newly-opened shelter...

Moreover, there were earlier TV reports on ABC News 24 that specifically mentioned the contingency of opening additional centre/s, if required!





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