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Reply #255 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 11:56am
 


yeah because the worst thing that happens when a napalm bomb goes off is a few branches scattered.
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Reply #256 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 12:57pm
 
Dig deep first, then we will show you the bill and may even broadcast a few vague aerials too, if we feel like it

Ok, here's the low down....

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Natural disaster relief payments have been activated for north Queensland residents impacted by Cyclone Yasi.

Premier Anna Bligh said joint state and federal government-funded Natural Disaster Relief and Recovery Arrangements had been activated for 19 local government areas on Thursday.

They are Burdekin, Burke, Cairns, Carpentaria, Cassowary Coast, Charters Towers, Croydon, Doomadgee, Etheridge, Flinders, Hinchinbrook, Mackay, Mount Isa, Palm Island, Tablelands, Townsville, Whitsunday, Wujal Wujal and Yarrabah.

"Activating these arrangements now means those people whose lives have been directly impacted by severe Tropical Cyclone Yasi can get the assistance they need," the premier said.

Ms Bligh said those suffering hardship and who were unable to meet their immediate needs should call 1800 173 349 for help.

She said a decision to cover the cost for local council to respond to the disaster had also been made.

"We have started to see just how much damage Yasi has caused in North Queensland communities and there's no doubt the damage bill from this event will continue to rise," she said.

With the Premier's Disaster Relief Fund now extended to Cyclone Yasi victims, Ms Bligh has called on Australians to dig deep again, to help those in north Queensland.

The fund stood at $192,470,566 on Thursday.

"I know they have been digging deep but my message once again is that we need you to keep digging," Ms Bligh said in a statement.

"If you've already donated I'm asking you to think about giving again.

"And if you've yet to give something please think about making any contribution that you can."

The government is encouraging people donating to the appeal to do it online or in person at banks and Coles Supermarkets, to free up phone lines for emergency calls.






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone

So, the areas eligible for disaster relief are as follows...

Burdekin, Burke, Cairns, Carpentaria, Cassowary Coast, Charters Towers, Croydon, Doomadgee, Etheridge, Flinders, Hinchinbrook, Mackay, Mount Isa, Palm Island, Tablelands, Townsville, Whitsunday, Wujal Wujal and Yarrabah.

But how much devastation have we seen guys, other than the odd, sporadic, already dilapidated rusty-roofed shack/shed.

The ones said to be completely destroyed anyway.

Did anyone even live in them, they look like old mission houses to me, some with obvious rust holes in the roof.

This is the deal, you show us the 'catastrophic' images of ground zero first, then we show you the colour of our money...if we see fit.
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Reply #257 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 1:00pm
 
Abbotts about to address the media, chan ABC1


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yeah because the worst thing that happens when a napalm bomb goes off is a few branches scattered.
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Reply #258 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 1:13pm
 
Remember how Anna Bligh denied having sat on Cyclone Larry's publicly donated money when she insisted  "We were never sitting on the money."  
Then in the next breath, Ms Bligh admitted that remaining money was in fact accrued interest'.


How does interest accrue if moneys not being sat on?

Grin Did I miss something?
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Reply #259 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 1:19pm
 
$700,000 in Cyclone Larry donations sitting unused in government accounts
by Patrick Lion From:The Sunday Mail (Qld) January 30, 2011 12:00AM


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FIVE years after Cyclone Larry ripped through north Queensland, the State Government is still sitting on more than $700,000 donated by the public to help victims.




In 2006, Australians dug deep to donate $23 million to help devastated communities around Innisfail recover, but The Sunday Mail can reveal $703,000 is still sitting in government bank accounts.

The revelation will raise further doubts about the Bligh Government's ability to adequately process and distribute flood relief donations, which total more than $181 million.

With two more cyclones bearing down on the region this week, Cassowary Coast Regional Council Mayor Bill Shannon yesterday said he did not realise the Government was sitting on the Larry donations to his residents.

"There are people who are still suffering who I'm sure would need the money," Cr Shannon said.

But confronted over the idle money yesterday, the Government said the funds would now be added to the Premier's Disaster Relief Appeal for the floods.

Premier Anna Bligh today denied her government has been sitting on funds donated for Cyclone Larry victims and told reporters she will transfer the remaining $703,000 in funds from the appeal established to help north Queensland victims of Cyclone Larry in 2006 to her disaster appeal for flood victims.

She said she was concerned the claims would scare people off from making donations to her flood appeal and assured Australians the money would be distributed properly.

The Premier's Disaster Relief Appeal for the floods has reach about $186 million.

The revelations come amid a storm of controversy over the past week about inconsistent means-testing for government grants and disaster relief payments for this summer's state-wide flood crisis.

Premier Bligh yesterday refused to comment on why the Larry money was never handed out but a spokesman confirmed the final six claims for assistance were processed last month.

Opposition Leader John-Paul Langbroek said it was shocking north Queenslanders had been "short-changed" after so many gave generously.

"It beggars belief that money that was donated to assist the victims of Cyclone Larry has remained unspent so many years after it was raised," Mr Langbroek said.

"Anna Bligh must explain why the victims of Cyclone Larry have been short-changed."

The Premier's spokesman said 2945 grants were paid from the fund. "Trustees have agreed that these residual funds will go directly to the current Premier's Appeal Fund," the spokesman said.

However, the Government failed to say when this decision was made.

Cr Shannon would not comment on whether the funds should go to the flood appeal but said some Cyclone Larry victims had suffered in the recent floods.

"I just can't believe there is that much left over and it has taken five years to process those final claims," he said.



http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/in-cyclone-larry-donations-sitting...
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Reply #260 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 1:28pm
 
Sign seen somewhere in North Qld:

"Kiss my Yasi"


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Reply #261 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 2:38pm
 
So can it be said, that whenever Bligh has one of her notorious good-will fund-raisers, the funding raised by the public for victims of natural disaster she cashes in?

So, with the $700,000 odd left over from Cyclone Larry, (again, no deaths)...will she cash in again this time, so will be about 1400,000 in front?

Perhaps if she's lucky, people will donate even more,(if they think it's a really really bad cyclone, especially due to recent devastating floods also. Or are the public a little over this already and starting to wake up to their Jedi weather and climate tricks? Wink

She must love 'computer-modelling' (geeks estimating wind speeds/climate data)  in conjunction with the no particular event that can be pinned directly to global warming itself. But there is no arguing with BoM and CSIRO when they produce their hundred years worth of statistics that's for sure.

Re- BoM stats, uncanny how they again, can only refer to computer modelling guestimates, with respects to a cyclone Yasi, not unlike CRU's guestimates with a Climategate affair also.

The central pressure of the system was estimated at 990 hPa. Winds close to the centre and whilst Every computer model is painting the same picture, they cant be entirely sure, because BoM only recorded wind speeds of 185km/h on Willis Island before Cyclone Yasi took out the weather station on the island. Well, allegedly anyway.

You would think they would cyclone proof their instruments, I mean, how many times have we heard the same old story..."Cyclone breaks the instruments at bla bla bla"....

Get real!

And why do these anemometers always seem to break on isolated BoM weather research stations?

Darwin airport experienced 200km + wind speeds a few days ago , and their anemometers aren't even built to withstand the wind speeds our BoM stations 'weatherpreneurs' equipment is built to withstand.

And Darwins equipment dint break, so why did our BoM cyclone proof weather stations?

I think they think we came down with the last shower!

Imagine a pack of independent weather analysts, doing it for themselves Ms Bligh...how do you like those apples?

Instruments that only appear to work sometimes, -vrs- their computer generated models 'guesstimate'.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR412.loop.shtml

Read this....  lol I'm not the only one suspicious of the this cyclones true veracity it seems.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3127925.htm

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ELEANOR HALL: So you're saying, sorry, the research centre that you've got on Willis Island has actually been damaged by Cyclone Yasi, how are you going to monitor the cyclone if you're centre's been hit?

GEOFF DOUEAL: Yeah the radar's now picking up, the onshore radars, we've got a string of radars along the on-shore parts and we've also got some observation points now at Flinders Reef and Holmes Reef which are on the outer reef, there giving us good wind speeds and directions.

Also the satellite imagery that we're receiving every hour has pretty clear eyes so we're able to track it quite usefully.

ELEANOR HALL: But you have lost your tracking from that key centre on Willis Island?

GEOFF DOUEAL: It has but we're starting to pick up the radar signal now as it gets closer to land.

ELEANOR HALL: Are you concerned that you won't be able to provide as accurate information to all the people in Queensland that are needing it as this massive system approaches?


See, they don't need accurate readings, just a Cat 5 was good enough for our Bligh!


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Reply #262 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 2:48pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 3rd, 2011 at 1:28pm:
Sign seen somewhere in North Qld:

"Kiss my Yasi"


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he he...  got any more?
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Reply #263 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 2:56pm
 
All done with mirrors... well, in theory.

http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/cyclones/cyclones.pdf

When conventional equipment fails...

Cool Would this be about right?
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Reply #264 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 3:09pm
 
Just turned the radio on and believe it or not, Anna still calling this an emergency....it's not over yet she says. The ABC reporter going from town to town trying to scratch up some drama....how is it there? bit of rain not much wind, we're advising people to move their cars from low lying areas near the river and that's about it.....ooooohhh that's not we want to hear. Flogging a dead horse. Yesterday, I can understand, the media getting sucked in by the bureaucracy and their political point scoring, but today, no way!
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Reply #265 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 3:20pm
 
If they hadn't evacuated huge numbers of people from the coast, this could have been much worse.  They recorded a storm surge of 10 metres in places.

Innisfail survived pretty well, considering that all their rebuilding after Cyclone Larry was done to a recent cyclone building standard.

Tully was less lucky.

It's still an emergency if you live in the 'Curry or the Isa.
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Reply #266 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 3:42pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 3rd, 2011 at 3:09pm:
Just turned the radio on and believe it or not, Anna still calling this an emergency....it's not over yet she says. The ABC reporter going from town to town trying to scratch up some drama....how is it there? bit of rain not much wind, we're advising people to move their cars from low lying areas near the river and that's about it.....ooooohhh that's not we want to hear. Flogging a dead horse. Yesterday, I can understand, the media getting sucked in by the bureaucracy and their political point scoring, but today, no way!


Are you serious?

It's a category 2 storm now ....   she's just media grabbing now, she knows she needs as much exposure media-wise as she can possibly get between now and state election, and needs to be seen doing something, being pro-active, in order to reassure, and appeal to as many QLD suckers (potential voters) by way of tugging at their post-disaster heart and purse strings by way of fund raising and providing relief payments.

Pre-electoral sweetner...and suck-up.

She sold their state and soul out from underneath them, I don't know anyone who is happy with her, she's like a standing joke in QLD, yet she's still so optimistic, or is this just wishful thinking or some sort of composure?  

She's very personable, a more convincing liar than Gillard, but the damage is done, I think it's become a stigma to be seen to be even agreeing with her among Queenslanders,  much less actually voting for her.

She's finished! And no amount of media stunts, relief hand-outs will make up for her selling them out.

Queenslanders are very patriotic and proud, and she's rendered them vulnerable and depressed.i







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Reply #267 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 4:06pm
 
<<She's very personable, a more convincing liar than Gillard,>.
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I'll have to disagree with you there. Something about her grates on me. She's the sort of person you either love or hate, there's no in between, and most Queenslander's hate her. They love her at the moment with her war time camaraderie speeches, but once they see how she sucked them dry and wasted the money they'll go back to hating her.She even makes Peter Beatty look saintly. No mellie, I prefer Gillards lies any day.
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Reply #268 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 5:08pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 3rd, 2011 at 4:06pm:
<<She's very personable, a more convincing liar than Gillard,>.
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I'll have to disagree with you there. Something about her grates on me. She's the sort of person you either love or hate, there's no in between, and most Queenslander's hate her. They love her at the moment with her war time camaraderie speeches, but once they see how she sucked them dry and wasted the money they'll go back to hating her.She even makes Peter Beatty look saintly. No mellie, I prefer Gillards lies any day.


She grates on us, because we know what she's really about, but for people who don't follow politics, she's personable in the sense she's able to pass as being almost human...has an air of relaxed familiarity about her,  your mother, your aunt, a neighbour, someone you work with..is a relaxed and sensible speaker, even though she waffles on a fair bit, probably needs to be less 'needy' lately she's smacking of desperado...you can tell she's giving it all she can to get re elected.

...It's too late for Bligh, she could promise  the world, and Queenslanders would still slay her....

And I cant blame them.

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Reply #269 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 5:18pm
 
And don't worry Pansi, these disasters cant go on forever, and underneath all this post- devastation surrealism, there's a very angry bunch of Queenslanders still who feel this premier has sold them out. Which she has....and as soon as the campaign kicks in, and the opposition reminds them of her pre-'Saintly' ways,  it will be back to hating Bligh as usual.

It wont take much effort to remind them of who she was before all this recent crap.







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