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Reply #150 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:37pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 4:52pm:
Wow, Yasi is predicted to have more powerful winds and more rainfall than cyclones/hurricanes Larry, Katrina and Tracey - and Yasi dwarfs all but Katrina...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/cyclone-season-2010-2011/cyclone_compari...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/cyclone-season-2010-2011/cyclone_compari...



Good post Equitist.
That gives everyone a good idea about how big this is.
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Reply #151 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:39pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:13pm:
If Mel and Kochie say it was neglected, then it was neglected.

If Mel and Kochie say the world ends tomorrow, don't bother setting your alarm.



I'm on a live blog and that was what was said. I would never watch Kochie by choice, it's painful to be forced to do it.
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Reply #152 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:44pm
 
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i'm in innisfail & fearing for my life- next door neighbours roof just blown off & cars in street have been crushed by trees- water is lapping at my doorstep
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Reply #153 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:02pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:06pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:50pm:

Palm Island not evacuated. Channel 7 reported that no evacuation order was given even though it is directly in Y's path  Cry

someone will have blood on their hands.


Dunno - but this has been reported elsewhere: -

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/palm-island-ready-for-yasi-mayor-s...

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Palm Island ready for Yasi, mayor says

February 2, 2011 - 6:24PM

Residents of Palm Island are bunkered down in homes and four evacuation centres waiting for Cyclone Yasi to strike, the island's mayor says.

Alf Lacey said it was misleading of a former mayor to suggest that Palm Island and its population of around 3500 had been neglected.

Mr Blackley said Palm Island, which lies off Queensland's coast, north of Townsville, had not been evacuated and accused authorities of ignoring its people.

Mr Lacey said while he agreed with former mayor Rob Blackley that the community needed a new, cyclone-rated town hall to use as a central evacuation centre, the mixed messages coming from the island were unnecessary.

"We've been planning for these events of many years," Mr Lacey, who is also chairman of the Local Disaster Management Group, said.

"We planned before Cyclone Anthony (which crossed into north Queensland on January 30) when it was predicted.

"Palm certainly is in safe hands and everything is in order," Mr Lacey told AAP.

"Evacuation centres are open if people are not feeling safe at home.

"I certainly don't need panic buttons being pushed because it will just turn that situation into a more worser situation than what it is.

"Giving those wrong messages out to the wider public is probably not useful when you're trying to unite the community around an event like this."

Mr Lacey said the island's homes were adequate to survive the cyclone.

"Some may lose roofs, we don't know until it happens," he said.

"There's a very strong wind blowing here at the moment, the streets are deserted, so everyone has heeded the advice we've given out."

Local council phones are staffed for those unsure of their safety, Mr Lacey said.

Some people flew out or left the island by boat, but there was no need for a mass evacuation, he said.

A strong presence of Queensland government health and school staff had remained, Mr Lacey said.

© 2011 AAP




Yes, I saw & heard that interview, he didn't seem confident of a good outcome, as much of the buildings were too low lying.

If the outcome is adverse, there may be a few questions to be asked!
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Reply #154 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:04pm
 


Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:44pm:
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i'm in innisfail & fearing for my life- next door neighbours roof just blown off & cars in street have been crushed by trees- water is lapping at my doorstep


This is truly scary shyte!

It is difficult to imagine how frightening it must be for those many thousands of people now stuck in its path - helpless against these extraordinary forces of nature, with nowhere to escape to...

The best we can do is send out good vibes - and pray to any respective doGs...

;-(




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Reply #155 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:18pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:44pm:
[Comment From harry harry: ]
i'm in innisfail & fearing for my life- next door neighbours roof just blown off & cars in street have been crushed by trees- water is lapping at my doorstep


It's amazing that you still have the internet.
Keep us posted.
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Reply #156 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:26pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:03pm:
nichy wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 6:37pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 6:20pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 6:08pm:
Cyclones f-ck up places a lot worse than floods.


True - that would be because they not only bring a lot of flooding water over a short period of time, but they also have savage winds and storm surges have waves powered by those winds...

This is a particularly savage cyclone to boot!

All this is pointing to the need for a National Disaster Levy - instead of the proposed Flood Levy - wonder how knee-jerk oppositional Abbott will handle this...




What do you expect him to do -  go out and stop it ?


Give it a rest Eq.  people will lose everything and lives could be lost as well and all you can do is sling off at Abbott.  



Actually, Nichy, I think you will find that much of this thread has been devoted to the remarkably-unfounded slagging of Gillard and Bligh - over things that they purportedly have or have not done in relation to the cyclone...

You will note, from my abovementioned comment, that I do not support the current proposals of either Gillard or Abbott - Gillard has proposed a temporary Flood Levy and I favour a permanent Natural Disaster Levy (in response, Abbott has been predictably obstructionist and unhelpful - period)...

Either way, in the context of Yasi (and the Black Saturday Bushfires) by their comments in relation to the proposed Flood Levy, I contend that both the Federal LibLabs have been shown to be far too short-sighted in relation to natural disaster contingency planning (and natural disaster insurance regulation) - and especially for reconstruction funding!





hey nem how do you feel about Bandt favouring Abbott rather than Judas... yes the green are not happy jan..so will gillard backflip... AGAIN...will she bend to please the greens???.. of course she will...who ever thought otherwise...ha,ha,ha,
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Reply #157 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:33pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:39pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Hint, if you can demonstrate a relevance to Abbotts political process, and this natural disaster, (something he's either doing, or not doing, that would make a difference)..re- the overall management of this disaster, then goodo, I'm all ears, otherwise, you have to admit, mentioning Abbott was a bit of a duck-egg.

 Wink How about we just blame Michael Jackson instead.



If anyone could make a link betwixt Yasi and Michael Jackson, Mellie, then it would be you!

Seriously, tho', this thread was politicised long before I mentioned Abbott - noting that I was far from the first to mention Gillard or Bligh on this thread which is (rightly) NOT in Politician's Suck...

In fact, Mellie, you have been one of the worst offenders in relation to politicising this cyclone - for which you have no reason to be proud nor smug!

That said: I, for one, do not believe that the criticisms of Gillard and Bligh in relation to this cyclone are even remotely warranted...

Let's try to leave this tangent at that!

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nem whos criticised Bligh I havent seen one person do that.. gillard well thats another thing.

mind you gillard does have a lot on her plate right now Egypt isnt helping.. a few complaints coming in from that direction..we might becoming a nation of whingers.. spolit whingers at that
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Reply #158 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:36pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:18pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:44pm:
[Comment From harry harry: ]
i'm in innisfail & fearing for my life- next door neighbours roof just blown off & cars in street have been crushed by trees- water is lapping at my doorstep


It's amazing that you still have the internet.
Keep us posted.



I'm not in the cyclone bobby, I'm on a live blog with people who are in the thick of it. It is starting to get nasty around Innisfail, there is actually some news guys driving around with a webcam .....idiots
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Reply #159 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:39pm
 
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:04pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 8:44pm:
[Comment From harry harry: ]
i'm in innisfail & fearing for my life- next door neighbours roof just blown off & cars in street have been crushed by trees- water is lapping at my doorstep


This is truly scary shyte!

It is difficult to imagine how frightening it must be for those many thousands of people now stuck in its path - helpless against these extraordinary forces of nature, with nowhere to escape to...

The best we can do is send out good vibes - and pray to any respective doGs...

;-(






that said......I hope all dogs and cats are safely inside with their human mums and dads.
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Reply #160 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:46pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:33pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:39pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Hint, if you can demonstrate a relevance to Abbotts political process, and this natural disaster, (something he's either doing, or not doing, that would make a difference)..re- the overall management of this disaster, then goodo, I'm all ears, otherwise, you have to admit, mentioning Abbott was a bit of a duck-egg.

 Wink How about we just blame Michael Jackson instead.



If anyone could make a link betwixt Yasi and Michael Jackson, Mellie, then it would be you!

Seriously, tho', this thread was politicised long before I mentioned Abbott - noting that I was far from the first to mention Gillard or Bligh on this thread which is (rightly) NOT in Politician's Suck...

In fact, Mellie, you have been one of the worst offenders in relation to politicising this cyclone - for which you have no reason to be proud nor smug!

That said: I, for one, do not believe that the criticisms of Gillard and Bligh in relation to this cyclone are even remotely warranted...

Let's try to leave this tangent at that!

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nem whos criticised Bligh I havent seen one person do that.. gillard well thats another thing.

mind you gillard does have a lot on her plate right now Egypt isnt helping.. a few complaints coming in from that direction..we might becoming a nation of whingers.. spolit whingers at that


I did cods, and I always will because she sold Qld from under our feet and now our grandkids will have nothing, she sold us out. She snuck the LNG operation at Gladstone through in the thick of the floods, when all eyes were turned elsewhere. I wonder what unpopular business proposal will get the ok in the midst of the cyclone?
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Reply #161 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 10:01pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 9:33pm:
Equitist wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:39pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Hint, if you can demonstrate a relevance to Abbotts political process, and this natural disaster, (something he's either doing, or not doing, that would make a difference)..re- the overall management of this disaster, then goodo, I'm all ears, otherwise, you have to admit, mentioning Abbott was a bit of a duck-egg.

 Wink How about we just blame Michael Jackson instead.



If anyone could make a link betwixt Yasi and Michael Jackson, Mellie, then it would be you!

Seriously, tho', this thread was politicised long before I mentioned Abbott - noting that I was far from the first to mention Gillard or Bligh on this thread which is (rightly) NOT in Politician's Suck...

In fact, Mellie, you have been one of the worst offenders in relation to politicising this cyclone - for which you have no reason to be proud nor smug!

That said: I, for one, do not believe that the criticisms of Gillard and Bligh in relation to this cyclone are even remotely warranted...

Let's try to leave this tangent at that!

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nem whos criticised Bligh I havent seen one person do that.. gillard well thats another thing.

mind you gillard does have a lot on her plate right now Egypt isnt helping.. a few complaints coming in from that direction..we might becoming a nation of whingers.. spolit whingers at that


More like a nation of oppressed drones, being drip fed and dictated to by an autocratic 'pro-communism' wanna-be plutocracy ...even our opposing media corps are 'gelling'..amalgamating, the contrast between the two becoming harder to differentiate by the week. Hence mudpack! (Murdoch/Packer).

Anyway, enough off that, now I'm going off on a bloody tangent,... we are only two or so hours away from the full velocity of this catastrophe, ..and  what a shocker it is.

I don't pray, (being agnostic), but if I did, it would be for these poor buggers especially those who felt they had no choice but to batten down the hatches and wait it out at home.

People in Hinchenbrook are calling authorities to rescue them, unfortunately, authorities have advised this is not possible at this late stage.

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Reply #162 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 10:05pm
 
And likewise Cods, I however playfully, and with a sinister edge also criticised Bligh earlier on in this thread too, and for good reason.

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Reply #163 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 10:26pm
 
There are going to be so many elderly people, or those who live alone who refused shelter,(or waited for the military to force their evacuation, that never came)  due to wanting to stay with their animal companions, it really is devastating stuff.

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Reply #164 - Feb 2nd, 2011 at 10:41pm
 
Already there are reports coming from the public advising they didn't receive adequate warning... whereby they were told to be ready to evacuate, though never received their 'final call'.

Due to the evacuation centres being so congested, many people stayed home and waited for more evacuation centre locations to be announced, this or waited for buses they believed were being dispatched to come fetch them when it was "time".... but they never came according to some reports, validity yet to be confirmed, ...

What happened to the planned "forced evacuations"? Roll Eyes



Blighs defence to this is...well, people have known it was coming for days... but to this I say, they were also turned away from shelters when they tried to escape earlier.

So if our government/emergency services weren't ready, how the hell can they expect the public to be more so?

So long as our tourists/back-packers and non-indigenous are out of harms way, I guess this is all that matters?



The disadvantaged, poor, and or otherwise compromised will be what forms best part of our casualties.

Like always.

Undecided Good to see Blighs enjoying exclusive coverage, she's very personable isn't she, well almost if you had not a clue as to what she's inconspicuously done to this state during her premiership.

Remember, recent 'natural' adversities don't/wont make up for her entire premiership of stuff-up's re- her having sold QLD out well before devastation struck.



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