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Reply #180 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm
 
That was a stuff up too - it was the stupidest thing Labor could have done.
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Reply #181 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 1:41pm
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm:
That was a stuff up too - it was the stupidest thing Labor could have done.


also true.

Im wondering if Rudd is rueing not using the double dissolution trigger he had a year ago. he would have won the election easily and still been PM.
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Reply #182 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:13pm
 
Stop playing politics with the victims

January 30, 2011


"Given the expenditure savings of earlier years, the necessary funds could not have been obtained without paring back in essential areas of social expenditure such as health, education and welfare for the needy."


- John Howard, in 1999, talking about a special levy to assist East Timor.



If Howard were prime minister today, I'm pretty sure he would introduce a flood levy, too.

At the time, ABC journalist Barrie Cassidy commented that
"It's becoming something of a Howard government trademark, a taxation levy to meet the costs of unforeseen crises."

In fact, the Howard government introduced six levies during the 11 years it was in power


They were on things such as funding employee entitlements after the collapse of Ansett, funding the gun buyback scheme and on the price of milk after deregulation.

Howard was very keen on levies, and for good reason.

We have to assume that, as a members of the government and as cabinet ministers, Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey were equally keen on them.

Because, when faced with extraordinary circumstances - such as droughts and flooding rains - the fiscally responsible thing for any government to do is to find a way to maintain services while responding to the crisis at hand.


At least, John Howard and Julia Gillard think so.

And while Tony Windsor's idea of a
Future Fund
scheme to insure us as a nation against the disasters that seem to regularly befall us is an excellent idea that deserves serious discussion,
it's a bit too late for the people of Queensland and Victoria


Essential infrastructure needs to be rebuilt as quickly as possible.

The economic health of Australia is reliant on Queensland's agricultural and resources powerhouses.

Nothing can be more important at the moment than rebuilding Queensland and Victoria.


But the Government also has an obligation to honour its election promise to return the budget to surplus.

For Abbott to reject a levy for the victims of the floods, despite having gone along with six of his own when in government, seems to me to be almost incredibly churlish.



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/stop-playing-politics-with-the-vic...




When Howard proposed the gun buyback levy and the East Timor levy, Labor, then in opposition, immediately agreed to both.

It didn't think playing politics with matters of life and death was in the national interest.

In fact, then-opposition leader Kim Beazley said: "We are obliged to deal with the realities that we now confront: that there will be a shortfall which will need to be made up in some way.

"And the mechanism that has been put forward, I would say, is about as fair a way as you could contemplate making that up."


So, in light of all that, somebody should tell Tony Abbott to stop playing politics with flood victims.








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Reply #183 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:20pm
 
Listen you grey haired limp d!ck old p00f 75 to 80% of Australians DON'T want a levy.
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Reply #184 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:26pm
 
whatsforme wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:20pm:
Listen you grey haired limp d!ck old p00f 75 to 80% of Australians DON'T want a levy.





And 90% don't like paying income-tax
Should it be abolished ?


Times like these require
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Reply #185 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:39pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:26pm:
whatsforme wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:20pm:
Listen you grey haired limp d!ck old p00f 75 to 80% of Australians DON'T want a levy.





And 90% don't like paying income-tax
Should it be abolished ?


Times like these require
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Not pandering to
populist policy



See what happens to old p00fs buzz. They give   a vegetable response.
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Reply #186 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 1:41pm:
Please delete wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm:
That was a stuff up too - it was the stupidest thing Labor could have done.


also true.

Im wondering if Rudd is rueing not using the double dissolution trigger he had a year ago. he would have won the election easily and still been PM.

I bet he is, I wonder who gave him that advice(not to call a DD)
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Reply #187 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 5:38pm
 
____ wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 8:43am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 8:12am:
keep on topic, muslimlike diversionist



Well the Hard Right are calling for the dumping of infrastructure over the Bringing The Troops Home from Afghanistan.

The Afghanistan Government is in power sharing discussions with the Taliban. So why are we propping up either side in this civil war when Australian Taxes spent fighting should be put to better use repairing climate change damage in Australia.


Bring The Troops Home ... and spend the tax savings on repairing Australia.




funny thing woody we will still be paying the troops only difference being they will be sitting on their bums..the amount saved will go down the gurgle like everything else.

mind you I am all for bringing them home but I trust the govt of the day knows just a little bit more than you and booby especially as he has never asked a question about Afghanistan...so I will kleave it to the govt of the day..thank you
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Reply #188 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 5:42pm
 
nichy wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 11:53am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 11:48am:
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Grattan Institute economist Saul Eslake said the ''progressive'' scale meant the cost of the recovery would be spread fairly across income brackets.



with 60% of people not paying anything, I dont see how that is 'spread fairly'. in fact, it is barely 'spread' at all!




I must say that I am also puzzled how  only 40% paying the levy is a fair spread  Undecided.  




why is it only a pittance for someone to pay $5 a week..

and not just a pittance for someone on less than $50000 to pay say ,50c a week..what can you buy with .50c today?... so it would hardly be a miss would it..


at least that way it wouldnt be dividing the nation.

I mean judging by the outrage of those on here regarding any complaints about the levy, they are all just busting to pay it... so let them.
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Reply #189 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 5:46pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:44pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:34pm:
Please delete wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:23pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:19pm:
Im not opposed to the notion of the levy, but how about everyone pays? if the amount is so small then spreading it around wil make it even smaller.


Absolutely agree. Gillard has fluffed this, economically, politically and commonsensibly.


I can't name 1 thing off the top of my head that she has not stuffed up



The public execution of her boss.




right on andrei she will go to her grave bearing that cross..

rudd will make sure of that..lol.


whoo do you think will replace her... I mean Swan is worse than she is..so what have they got???.no one that I would take too thats for sure.
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Reply #190 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 5:48pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 4:46pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 1:41pm:
Please delete wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm:
That was a stuff up too - it was the stupidest thing Labor could have done.


also true.

Im wondering if Rudd is rueing not using the double dissolution trigger he had a year ago. he would have won the election easily and still been PM.

I bet he is, I wonder who gave him that advice(not to call a DD)




probably gillard his best friend..lol

are you really sure he would have won??..I have lost track of how he stood in the polls then..I mean thats what he was executed for wasnt it?..the polls.
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Reply #191 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 8:23pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 10:47am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 10:37am:
gun buyback was a federal concern.

levee levy is a state issue, which the vics ignored despite warning, a review and support by SES etc etc.


So you want to go down the path of ignoring warnings?????
I believe there were plenty about IRAQ NOT having WMD
Costello ignored his own waring of a "economic meltdown" by introducing more tax cuts (re- disposable income) into the economy just before the GFC.
there's 2 just off the top of my head, what others & how many will I find if I search
They all do it, don't try & portray it as a Labor/Left only afflicition




smithy I seem to recall Costello got laughed at for his economics..lol.. but we wont go into that..


whats the betting this levy wont go away????... whats the betting it will be passed into consolidated revenue.. and will be called an emergency fund...in other words we will be paying forever more which in my opinion our income tax and every other bloody tax should be taking care of right now..

if this or any govt was doing its job they wouldnt need a levy to cover an emergency of this type.. look at Qld now it is being bedeviled by cyclones.. this isnt NEW... its the norm only some years it seems m ore than others... but it isnt NEW as much as the greens would like you to believe its only since we started using coal...

Fed Govt and State Govts should have always had money for just such occassions I am sorry but thats the way I see it.. and its disgusting that we havent got $5bill.to fix this States roads and infrustracture its a tragedy really complete mismanagement.. no money for a rainy day.
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Reply #192 - Jan 31st, 2011 at 11:21pm
 
And you wonder why all Australians are sick of the globalists, the Greens agenda and the republicans racism against Aussies of British origin every Australia day and the prospect of a Carbon tax levied against us to pay for our own ethnic cleansing so that blondie and the footy hero can live a privileged life. Cool
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Reply #193 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 3:14am
 
Prevailing wrote on Jan 31st, 2011 at 11:21pm:
And you wonder why all Australians are sick of the globalists, the Greens agenda and the republicans racism against Aussies of British origin every Australia day and the prospect of a Carbon tax levied against us to pay for our own ethnic cleansing so that blondie and the footy hero can live a privileged life. Cool




gosh thats a toughy prev.. pity I dont understand a word of it.. but looks serious.
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Reply #194 - Feb 1st, 2011 at 7:23am
 
The Greens, Gillard and all of their super rich racist corporate crony's are concerned at the rise in litigation and class actions against them.  Get used to it - thats our system in action you are trying to dismantle.  The people are just suing back what those globalist racist grubs have stolen. Cool
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