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Reply #45 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:21am:
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"Class to me is irrelevant"

So you keep bringing it up.

You are NOT working class. Be honest with yourself.



It is irrelevant - but not to many people.

You have to admit that a lot of people have a view that 'rich kids get given everything' in viewing the whole private schooling programme?

A set of people who went through the public system and don't earn that much will have that view - I guarantee you.

I am saying that it is wrong. My class (which I still state through family background is working) is neither here nor there but it gives me a perspective not afforded to others.


If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?

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The University of Durham, commonly known as Durham University, is a university in Durham, England. It was founded by Act of Parliament in 1832 and granted a Royal Charter in 1837. It was one of the first universities to open in England for more than 600 years and has a claim towards being the third oldest university in England, although there are other institutions that also claim this distinction.

Durham is a collegiate university, with its main functions divided between the academic departments of the University and 16 colleges. In general, the departments perform research and provide lectures to students, while the colleges are responsible for the domestic arrangements and welfare of undergraduate students, graduate students, post-doctoral researchers and some University staff.

The University is generally seen as very prestigious and is consistently one of the highest ranked universities in the UK. "Long established as a leading alternative to Oxford and Cambridge", the University attracts "a largely middle-class student body" according to The Times Good University Guide. The University was named Sunday Times University of the Year in 2005, having previously been shortlisted for the award in 2004.

The Chancellor of the University is Bill Bryson, appointed by the University's Convocation on 4 April 2005. The post-nominal letters of graduates have Dunelm (the Latin abbreviation for Durham) attached to indicate the University.






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_University
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Reply #46 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:48am
 
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am:
If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?



Because I had the required A Level grades for the course.

Universities in Britain don't discriminate based on class.
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Reply #47 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:55am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:48am:
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am:
If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?



Because I had the required A Level grades for the course.

Universities in Britain don't discriminate based on class.



Well why have they got the following quote on their web site

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the University attracts "a largely middle-class student body" according to The Times Good University Guide


If they didn't discriminate on class they wouldn't have "A largely middle-class student body"
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Reply #48 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:59am
 
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:55am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:48am:
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am:
If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?



Because I had the required A Level grades for the course.

Universities in Britain don't discriminate based on class.



Well why have they got the following quote on their web site

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the University attracts "a largely middle-class student body" according to The Times Good University Guide


If they didn't discriminate on class they wouldn't have "A largely middle-class student body"



Are you really this thick or are you having me on?

You can have a largely middle class body without discriminating.
More people from the middle class had better grades.

They discriminate on ABILITY and nothing to do without class.

For example you could be from a higher class than I, but you wouldn't be admitted because you don't have the necessary grades for entry into university.

The university (nor any uni in all of the UK) does not discriminate on any class, race or gender grounds.

The fact it has more middle to higher class kids is irrelevant and more a reflection of the fact working class kids don't apply.
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Reply #49 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:06am
 
Hicks = middle class.

To argue anything else is ridiculous.

Why you keep bringing up class is beyond me.
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Reply #50 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:12am
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:06am:
Hicks = middle class.

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On that we shall simply have to disagree.
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Reply #51 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:14am
 
We can put it to a vote, if you like.

Anyone else here think Hicks is working class?
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Reply #52 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:23am
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:14am:
We can put it to a vote, if you like.

Anyone else here think Hicks is working class?


Why does anyone else's opinion matter?

Hold your own views and make your own decisions.

That is how leaders emerge, not followers.
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Reply #53 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:24am
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:14am:
We can put it to a vote, if you like.

Anyone else here think Hicks is working class?


social class is irrelevant. BEHAVIOURAL class is not.
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Reply #54 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:25am
 
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:55am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:48am:
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am:
If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?



Because I had the required A Level grades for the course.

Universities in Britain don't discriminate based on class.



Well why have they got the following quote on their web site

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the University attracts "a largely middle-class student body" according to The Times Good University Guide


If they didn't discriminate on class they wouldn't have "A largely middle-class student body"


Im with Andrei on this... are you really that dumb or are you just having us on?
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Reply #55 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:29am
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:27am:
Your father barely knew what manual labour was, and you wouldn't know one end of a shovel from t'other.



I bet if you ask Andrei to dig some post holes he would go and look for an old well to cut up.
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Reply #56 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:24am:
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:14am:
We can put it to a vote, if you like.

Anyone else here think Hicks is working class?


social class is irrelevant. BEHAVIOURAL class is not.


And? your conclusion?
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Reply #57 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:31am
 
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:29am:
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:27am:
Your father barely knew what manual labour was, and you wouldn't know one end of a shovel from t'other.



I bet if you ask Andrei to dig some post holes he would go and look for an old well to cut up.


thanks for answering my post. you actually ARE THAT DUMB.
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Reply #58 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:33am
 
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:24am:
Please delete wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:14am:
We can put it to a vote, if you like.

Anyone else here think Hicks is working class?


social class is irrelevant. BEHAVIOURAL class is not.


And? your conclusion?


I dont think Andrei exactly fits into a simple category like that. Posts are notriously bad at defining a persons true identity and Andrei clearly plays a role here.
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Reply #59 - Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:34am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:25am:
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:55am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:48am:
John S wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 9:43am:
If your family background is "working class", why did Durham University accept you as a student?



Because I had the required A Level grades for the course.

Universities in Britain don't discriminate based on class.



Well why have they got the following quote on their web site

Quote:
the University attracts "a largely middle-class student body" according to The Times Good University Guide


If they didn't discriminate on class they wouldn't have "A largely middle-class student body"


Im with Andrei on this... are you really that dumb or are you just having us on?



If I went to Durham University i would be looked down on cause I am from a working class background.

No one is any better then me and I am no better then anyone else. We are all born the same and we all take the same when we go and that is SFA in both cases.
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