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Islamic Cleric says 'PM Let Muslims Take Over'
Jan 22nd, 2011 at 1:05pm
 
I wonder if this is Abu? Or one of his friends.  

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ISLAMIC preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon points heavenwards to emphasise his message for the governments of Australia -- there is no God but Allah and only his laws should be obeyed.


What a strange bigotted thing for him to say! He must be an islamophobe. The surprising thing is not the content of what is said by him, as this is regular garden variety Islamic teaching. The 'radical' thing is that an Islamic preacher is actually saying it to infidels and in English.

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"My attack is on the Prime Minister of Australia," he said yesterday. "I hate the parliament in Canberra. I want to go straight for the jugular vein and advise the parliament that they have no right to legislate. They should immediately step down and let the Muslims take over."

An Australian-born convert to Islam, Siddiq-Conlon is the self-anointed leader of a group called Sharia4Australia, which is pushing for the introduction of sharia courts as a first step towards achieving Islamic law.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pm-go-and-let-the-muslims-take-over/...

Other muslims will denounce this statement, but only because, if we know what is going on and the very real danger we face - we can marshall our defences. Far better for us to remain in the dark, until it is too late to defend ourselves, than be faced with confronting the awful truth.
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ISLAM is a vicious [un-reformable] political tyranny, which has always murdered its critics, and it continues that practice even today.
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Re: Islamic Cleric says 'PM Let Muslims Take Over'
Reply #1 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 3:09pm
 
Australians are democrats and they will fight for it if necessary.
Many of them are also Christians, many quite fundamentalist.
At the core of Australian society and culture there is an unbreakable connection with western democratic ideals...as well as serious political links with those countries.
There are already laws in this country outlawing discrimination on religious grounds. Any group or sect that attempts to impose by force (or otherwise) a religious government on this country will indeed have to fight for that, and they will be taking on quite a few countries other than Australia as well.
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Re: Islamic Cleric says 'PM Let Muslims Take Over'
Reply #2 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 5:23pm
 
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There are already laws in this country outlawing discrimination on religious grounds. Any group or sect that attempts to impose by force (or otherwise) a religious government on this country will indeed have to fight for that, and they will be taking on quite a few countries other than Australia as well.


Sort of. The Federal discrimination laws don't mention religion, and the State ones say 'ethno-religious discrimination' whatever that means. To me it seemed to mean Jews only. That said, I know they'd find a way.

But Islam uses the tolerance of religious freedom as the cloak to shield it from scrutiny in its nefarious activities. What is happening, is you are watching an internal threat use this leeway to move further and further against us.

Already, our media are infiltrated, our governments, our political parties, our police not by muslims, but by leftwing idiots who support Islam's apparent right to destroy western democracy unmolested. This means that the organs of the state are defending Islam at every turn, and it will only get worse.

Unless we act now.  There is a reasonably strong underground movement, but, we need to get better organised.
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Re: Islamic Cleric says 'PM Let Muslims Take Over'
Reply #3 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 6:44pm
 
what do you/they propose to be done?

what underground movement?
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Reply #4 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 11:02pm
 
It needs to be an above ground movement which states that we "don't respect Islam".
If Islam wants to be respected by the inhabitants of the countries that they have immigrated to because of the hopelessness that their religion has created in their own cesspool, then it's up to them to change, not us.

It's quite simple reallly.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/8200389/harry-potter-actors-brother-jai...

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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 12:08am
 
this is what we get when we let muslims in aussie.

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Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 12:13am
 
Calanen wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 5:23pm:
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There are already laws in this country outlawing discrimination on religious grounds. Any group or sect that attempts to impose by force (or otherwise) a religious government on this country will indeed have to fight for that, and they will be taking on quite a few countries other than Australia as well.


Sort of. The Federal discrimination laws don't mention religion, and the State ones say 'ethno-religious discrimination' whatever that means. To me it seemed to mean Jews only. That said, I know they'd find a way.

But Islam uses the tolerance of religious freedom as the cloak to shield it from scrutiny in its nefarious activities. What is happening, is you are watching an internal threat use this leeway to move further and further against us.

Already, our media are infiltrated, our governments, our political parties, our police not by muslims, but by leftwing idiots who support Islam's apparent right to destroy western democracy unmolested. This means that the organs of the state are defending Islam at every turn, and it will only get worse.

Unless we act now.  There is a reasonably strong underground movement, but, we need to get better organised.




IMO, we do not need to get 'better organised', i.e. to develop a 'political' response.

ISLAM is a political system!

IMO, organising ourselves politically, will only give ISLAMISTS, and their naive non-moslem allies, a political target which they can publicly disparage, and condemn.



IMO, what we need to do, and need to keep doing, is to continue to educate John and Jane Citizen, about what ISLAM really is, and about ISLAM's real motives, its intentions, and its deceitful and nefarious methods.

We must strive to try to make the common man aware, of what ISLAM is, and what ISLAM is trying to achieve.

IMO, we should try to REVEAL the culpability of our politicians and bureaucrats, in manufacturing, our present dire circumstances, vis-a-vis their ill-conceived and dangerous 'social policies', in promoting the 'tolerance' of ISLAMISTS among us.


IMO, politicians [who reveal themselves to be mostly self serving liars, and deceivers, imo] are not and never will be our allies.

The common man is our best ally.

It is the common man who is able to 'bend', the politician [and the political 'system'] to his will.



ISLAM is an old, old, political system!

ISLAM has had 1400 years experience, in manipulating and/or undermining 'competing' political systems.

ISLAM knows every political 'trick'.

That, is why our own political systems [in the West] are, and have been, 'taken in' and subverted by the ISLAMISTS.




Truth is our best weapon against ISLAM.

Politicians always try to subvert the truth, for the very 'best' of reasons.

It is their nature.

The truth will kill ISLAM, not politicians.


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Re: Islamic Cleric says 'PM Let Muslims Take Over'
Reply #7 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 3:13am
 
I agree that we should not let Islam have anything to do with the way that we conduct ourselves.

The most thoughtful, reflective, empathetic islamicist that I know of is Abu...and he is an asshole of magnanimous proportions.

We don't need any more of that shite.

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The truth will kill ISLAM, not politicians.


Only if you are truthful.



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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2011 at 4:05pm
 
It starts with us at a personal level- i defy anything Muslim in my own circle and don't bend at all for them. Given I have a Muslim surname, it enrages them even more that I am a self confessed christian/infidel..lol. I had Muslim students living next to me in Melb who were rude all the time and once asked me to stop eating swine flesh- my response was to cook a heap of bacon and allow the smell to waft...evil man I am.
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Reply #9 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 6:15pm
 
HC wrote on Jan 28th, 2011 at 4:05pm:
It starts with us at a personal level- i defy anything Muslim in my own circle and don't bend at all for them. Given I have a Muslim surname, it enrages them even more that I am a self confessed christian/infidel..lol. I had Muslim students living next to me in Melb who were rude all the time and once asked me to stop eating swine flesh- my response was to cook a heap of bacon and allow the smell to waft...evil man I am.


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Reply #10 - Feb 3rd, 2011 at 6:30pm
 
HC wrote on Jan 28th, 2011 at 4:05pm:
It starts with us at a personal level- i defy anything Muslim in my own circle and don't bend at all for them. Given I have a Muslim surname, it enrages them even more that I am a self confessed christian/infidel..lol. I had Muslim students living next to me in Melb who were rude all the time and once asked me to stop eating swine flesh- my response was to cook a heap of bacon and allow the smell to waft...evil man I am.



  Barbie at your place!  Grin
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