Yadda wrote on Jan 19^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:





Men may break their covenants, God does not.



Deuteronomy 31:20
For when I shall have brought them into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my covenant.
21  And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware.

Psalms 89:34
My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 19^th, 2011 at 1:51pm:




What has integrity got to do with love?

And what has falsehood and infidelity, got to do with oath breaking?

Don't you know Karnal?


Dictionary;
infidelity = =
1 the action or state of being sexually unfaithful.
2 lack of religious faith.



Jeremiah 9:23
Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24  But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the LORD which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the LORD.

Yadda wrote on Jan 19^th, 2011 at 2:14pm:


Sorry, I'm lost.

Has your computer been attacked by any viruses lately, Yadda?

Good God, no. I was just wondering, perhaps, if the Mormons might have hacked in and fiddled around with anything.

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 19^th, 2011 at 5:15pm:


Yes Abu, in permitting Mohammed the luxury of not sleeping with his wives, and the breaking and expiation of his oaths it would have been so much clearer, to everyone, if Allah had made that distinction ["concerning your oaths relating to sleeping with your wives, Allah indeed has sanctioned for you..."].

But Allah didn't make that distinction.

Allah said; "Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector..."


e.g.
In recent years the 'Palestinians' have entered into truces with Israel.
But 'Palestinians' have seemingly, then, continued to attack Israel, and 'Palestinians' have never kept one of their 'Hudna' [ceasefire] agreements with the Israelis.

And why ???

Because when a good moslem makes a verbal agreement [an oath] with an 'unbeliever', that agreement isn't worth the paper it is written on.

i.e.
A moslem MAY honour his agreement with an 'unbeliever' [if honouring his agreement is in the interests of the moslem].
But a good moslem is not obligated to honour any agreement he makes with an 'unbeliever'.
And THAT, is the 'get out' for all good moslems, in all dealings and agreements with 'unbelievers'.

And why ???

Because moslems, dealings and agreements and truces with 'unbelievers', are following the example of ISLAM's perfect man, Mohammed.

'HUDNA' IS THE ARABIC WORD FOR TRUCE...
Google;
arafat hudna explained

Google;
Treaty of Hudaybiya

Google;
when it is in their interests to do so muslims will seek a truce hudna with a stronger enemy

Google;
muslims are free to break a truce with an enemy as soon as they feel strong enough to resume hostilities

MOSLEM 'LOGIC' CONCERNING THE NEVER-ENDING WARS AND CONFLICTS WITH UNBELIEVERS...
Google;
resisting islam causes war, so infidels are responsible for war with muslims







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Christianity, Jesus, said;

Matthew 5:33
Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34  But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35  Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36  Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37  But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.