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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41813 Gender:	Which Party Has The least practical greeny policy Jan 17^th, 2011 at 12:36pm blah blah blah
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41813 Gender:	Re: Which Party Has The least practical greeny policy Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 12:38pm pollie wollie
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61819 Here Gender:	Re: Which Party Has The least practical greeny policy Reply #2 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all.
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Reply #3 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 3:36pm

It's ok because before the election Julia Gillard said she wouldn't ever have a carbon tax in her Government.

Actually, then again -

She also said she fully supports Kevin Rudd and wouldn't challenge him for the leadership.

And before the election before the last one, Labor promised not to remove the private healthcare rebate, not to touch superannuation, to keep the budget in surplus.

So I guess who knows - they seem to be completely unable to keep their word on anything?

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Which Party Has The least practical greeny policy Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:22pm Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm: Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all. Why would they need a policy for a non-existent problem??? Do the greens and Labor have policies on contacting alien ambassadors???
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Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:30pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all.

Why would they need a policy for a non-existent problem???

Do the greens and Labor have policies on contacting alien ambassadors???

No they will just mee too the Liberals policy on that one.

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Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all.

Why would they need a policy for a non-existent problem???

Do the greens and Labor have policies on contacting alien ambassadors???

No they will just mee too the Liberals policy on that one.

Do you think the Libs have one???
I'd seriously worry about ANY Government that actually had a current (serious) policy for contacting aliens...

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 6:17pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all.

Why would they need a policy for a non-existent problem???

Do the greens and Labor have policies on contacting alien ambassadors???

No they will just mee too the Liberals policy on that one.

Do you think the Libs have one???
I'd seriously worry about ANY Government that actually had a current (serious) policy for contacting aliens...

Im sure the Greens have one...

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Reply #8 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 8:09pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

Did you leave the Liberals out of the survey because they have no policy at all.

Why would they need a policy for a non-existent problem???

Do the greens and Labor have policies on contacting alien ambassadors???

No they will just mee too the Liberals policy on that one.

Do you think the Libs have one???
I'd seriously worry about ANY Government that actually had a current (serious) policy for contacting aliens...

The USA do.

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Reply #9 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 8:41pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

It's ok because before the election Julia Gillard said she wouldn't ever have a carbon tax in her Government.

When was that tax enacted?

None out of 1

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

And before the election before the last one, Labor promised not to remove the private healthcare rebate.

Current Policy:

The Federal Government 30% Rebate is not means tested. It does not matter how much you earn or the level of your family income. If you have hospital and/or general private health insurance that is a Complying Health Insurance Policy, you can claim the Federal Government 30% Rebate.

None out of 2

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not to touch superannuation

Do not think that is the correct quote - all governments tweak supper a bit - the Howard Gov made a number of changes.

None out of 3 (not sure but not worth counting anyway).

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to keep the budget in surplus

Both sides were promising the same thing neither were going to be able to deliver in the circumstances. Labor's promise was not actually to gaurantee surplusses.

"We will maintain a budget surplus on average over the economic cycle"

That means that when the cycle goes down they may not provide a surplus. (The cycle went down).

None out of 4.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61819 Here Gender:	Re: Which Party Has The least practical greeny policy Reply #11 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 9:29pm whatsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 8:44pm: When was that tax enacted? Hey dopey do you think it won't be once Prime Minister Brown has control of the Senate? Did PM Brown promise no carbon Tax?
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Reply #12 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 9:56pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

It's ok because before the election Julia Gillard said she wouldn't ever have a carbon tax in her Government.

When was that tax enacted?

None out of 1

WOW do you realy want to do this? Gillard has said a carbon tax is HER POLICY weeks after ana election where she ruled it out. ONE OUT OF ONE

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

And before the election before the last one, Labor promised not to remove the private healthcare rebate.

Current Policy:

The Federal Government 30% Rebate is not means tested. It does not matter how much you earn or the level of your family income. If you have hospital and/or general private health insurance that is a Complying Health Insurance Policy, you can claim the Federal Government 30% Rebate.

The TRIED to means test the private health rebate. trying to break an election promise is still an electin breach. TWO OUT OF TWO

None out of 2

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not to touch superannuation

Do not think that is the correct quote - all governments tweak supper a bit - the Howard Gov made a number of changes.

This sounds like your weakest point yet. Promising no changes and then making changes (and they were very significant ones) is an election breach.

THREE OUT OF THREE

None out of 3 (not sure but not worth counting anyway).

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to keep the budget in surplus

Both sides were promising the same thing neither were going to be able to deliver in the circumstances. Labor's promise was not actually to gaurantee surplusses.

"We will maintain a budget surplus on average over the economic cycle"

That means that when the cycle goes down they may not provide a surplus. (The cycle went down).

None out of 4.

WOW you really thought no one woudl rebuff you on those, did you? well I did and the score is at BEST 3 out of 4 and the fourth is pretty dubious since it is nothing more than a waffle promise subject to any interpretation you wish.

Not one of your better efforts!

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Reply #13 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 10:15pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2011 at 9:56pm:

WOW you really thought no one woudl rebuff you on those, did you? well I did and the score is at BEST 3 out of 4 and the fourth is pretty dubious since it is nothing more than a waffle promise subject to any interpretation you wish.

Not one of your better efforts!

Sorry Longy but you really said nothing with substance: colourful though

Today there is no Carbon tax (like it or not) and still nothing before parliament no draft no recomendations nothing, The Rebate legislation is in place, The super changes were that significant I do not even remember what they were and judging by your response neither do you.

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Reply #14 - Jan 17^th, 2011 at 10:22pm

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"We will maintain a budget surplus on average over the economic cycle"

That means that when the cycle goes down they may not provide a surplus. (The cycle went down).

and the fourth is pretty dubious since it is nothing more than a waffle promise subject to any interpretation you wish.

I think a very clear and precise position.

I am sure that if the Liberals had put that position you would have no problem fully understanding the meaning.

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