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Reply #90 - Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 11:19am:
I like your ideas. But we don't need to give the Chinese franchise rights. We already slaughter more than enough cats to supply a market, if it became legal.


Two birds with one stone was what I was suggesting.

The steady eradication of our ferals while at the same time generating several million dollars in revenue from the cat-food rstaurant  industry in China.

Very few Chinese actually cook at home. Street restaurants are so cheap and convenient it's not worth them doing a lot of cooking at home.

My first ever boss in Australia was a bushie from Moree who used to make a living trapping rabbits, skinning them, and selling them for transport to the cities.

Not only is there a food-protein industry here, but also a beautiful cat-fur industry to feed the fashion markets all over the world.

I remember about 15 years ago the Current Affairs program did a jump on a Chinese guy down at Sydney's Mascot airport as he was organising the shipment of about 50 small dogs to China.

They caught him red-handed. All stolen live dogs headed for the South East Asian restaurant industry.


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Reply #91 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:10am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Very few Chinese actually cook at home. Street restaurants are so cheap and convenient it's not worth them doing a lot of cooking at home.


The Chinese don't just use cats for food - they use their fur for their exported toys and they are skinned alive. As human beings there is no need for us to cause suffering to any animal deliberately. There are plenty of methods for a quick, painless kill.

Cats aren't cruel deliberately. It is a base instinct and not all cats torture small animals, but so many people feel the need to torture them more so than any other animal?
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Reply #92 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:45am
 
mantra wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:10am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 22nd, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Very few Chinese actually cook at home. Street restaurants are so cheap and convenient it's not worth them doing a lot of cooking at home.


The Chinese don't just use cats for food - they use their fur for their exported toys and they are skinned alive. As human beings there is no need for us to cause suffering to any animal deliberately. There are plenty of methods for a quick, painless kill.

Cats aren't cruel deliberately. It is a base instinct and not all cats torture small animals, but so many people feel the need to torture them more so than any other animal?


Exactly.

I'm not seriously suggesting that feral cats be exported live to China, any more than I support live sheep and cattle being exported to the Middle East or Indonesia where that part of the brain which functions as empathy and a conscience is entirely missing.




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Reply #93 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am
 
The money you "cat lovers" spend on your pets feeding and what not could feed 10 starving kids in any 3rd world country you could name. Whats that about empathy again? Oh, Im sorry they have brown skin, thier lives are obviously worth a lot less than your self entitlement to a pet you think has a personality.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #94 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 11:09am
 
ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am:
The money you "cat lovers" spend on your pets feeding and what not could feed 10 starving kids in any 3rd world country you could name. Whats that about empathy again? Oh, Im sorry they have brown skin, thier lives are obviously worth a lot less than your self entitlement to a pet you think has a personality. 



This is true, but how do we feed the starving children from third world countries? For a start most of the despotic leaders of these nations want cash - not food and the money is rarely distributed to those who need it.

I don't think cats have much of a personality, but the  ones who are cared for adapt to their owner's needs. I didn't particularly want another cat, but I was talked into it. Within 12 months of adopting this feline, she adapted to my lifestyle instinctively. She stays away from the birds and lizards, but she's permitted to catch small rodents and she hasn't disappointed me yet.
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Reply #95 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:01pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am:
The money you "cat lovers" spend on your pets feeding and what not could feed 10 starving kids in any 3rd world country you could name.


Correct!

If I thought the 'starving African kids' situation was only a temporary situation due to natural causes, I would gladly make some donations.

However, the situation is interminable for as long as the billions that are given each year to the African nations through Western Foreign Aid is not allowed to trickle down to save their own children from starvation.

It would make no difference if I sold my house and property and sent the entire proceeds to 'help the starving children'. If billions each year makes no difference, then me living on a park bench would make no difference either. 

And then again, the UN is sponsoring doctors to treat millions in Africa for malaria ~ which in turn is going to increase the population by several million a year ~ adding further to the problem of 'Africa's starving children'.


ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am:
Whats that about empathy again?


It's having the capacity to sympathise with another person's situation ~ which I do. But I'm not a sentimental fool either for others to profit from.

ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am:
Oh, Im sorry they have brown skin,


Grin Apology accepted.

ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 10:59am:
thier lives are obviously worth a lot less than your self entitlement to a pet you think has a personality.  Roll Eyes


.... billions of dollars each year in Foreign Aid ... and millions of dollars each year from private charities ... and yet ....

Nice try Ian, but my guilt meter hasn't twitched off the start pin.

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Reply #96 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:09pm
 
Ah, justification and projection to cover the obvious hypocrisy. Sorry mate, not working. Hiow many children do you sponsor?
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Reply #97 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:20pm
 
I decide where my money goes, not you or anybody else. If I want to spend it on pets, it's none of your smacking business.

You feel good buddy, paying the massive salaries of the big wigs managing these charities.
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Reply #98 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:25pm
 
Socrates wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:20pm:
I decide where my money goes, not you or anybody else. If I want to spend it on pets, it's none of your smacking business.

You feel good buddy, paying the massive salaries of the big wigs managing these charities.
Its not necassary to donate to charities to change some of these peoples lives for the better. But thats your justification to assauge your guilt, I can see that.
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Reply #99 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:33pm
 
I have no guilt whatsoever, you on the other-hand must have; you're the one making all the assumptions and doling out the unwanted advice.

"assuage" ....... Do you mean justify? At least spell it correctly!
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Reply #100 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:35pm
 
Get a dictionary chowderhead.
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Reply #101 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:43pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
Get a dictionary chowderhead.


as·suage 
/əˈswāj/
Verb
Make (an unpleasant feeling) less intense: "the letter assuaged the fears of most members".
Satisfy (an appetite or desire): "an opportunity occurred to assuage her desire for knowledge".
Synonyms
soothe - appease - allay - pacify - mitigate - calm

I think it's you who should check your spelling ignoramus. Also that misspelled word is totally unnecessary "Chowderhead".
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Reply #102 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:49pm
 
Who cares about typos, I have fingers like suassages, mistype all the time. You got the meaning anyway. You should change you name there, doesnt really suit you. Try something like "Forrest" instead. Anyway, youre boring me now so Ive finished paying with you masterminds for a while. Im off to get paid an obscene amount of money for doing something simple.
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Reply #103 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:54pm
 
'Charity Begins at Home'.

(My three cats are sitting here and nodding wisely at this).

Something as simple and cheap as a fish-and-rice diet would save the children from starvation. It would end it overnight.

Billions in Foreign Aid and millions in charity and yet STILL there's not enough money to buy dried fish and rice?

Give ... me .... a break.

When I was a boy in the 50's my mother told me to eat up ALL of my brussels sprouts, swede, parsnip, spinach, turnips, and broccoli because there were starving children in Africa.

I went to bed every night KNOWING I had helped some starving kid in Africa. I could hear my stomach rumbling with gratitude.




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Reply #104 - Jun 24th, 2013 at 1:03pm
 
ian wrote on Jun 24th, 2013 at 12:49pm:
Who cares about typos, I have fingers like suassages, mistype all the time. You got the meaning anyway. You should change you name there, doesnt really suit you. Try something like "Forrest" instead. Anyway, youre boring me now so Ive finished paying with you masterminds for a while. Im off to get paid an obscene amount of money for doing something simple.


What else would you be able to do other than something "simple"?

See ya later "suassages" ....... Grin  Grin Grin

Now don't bugger-up that "simple" job and lose that obscene amount of money.......
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