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Reply #60 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:55am

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During the following days it beat the sh*t out of the neighbour's cat every time it came sneaking into the backyard to beat up Gizmo and Muffin.

I now haven't even seen the neighbour's cat for over a year ...

Meanwhile, Sooty thinks the sun shines out of my ... um ...

Cats are extremely territorial. Surprisingly this small, gentle female adoptee does exactly the same thing. She stands up to all of the neighbourhood cats and comes off the winner every time.

It's probably because their earlier life has been so difficult. When they finally have a place to call home - they're not going to share it with strangers.

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Re: cat traps
Reply #62 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:03am

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:52am:

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And here I might have a credibility problem with you.

It's funny because it's true.

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Nature eventually sorts itself out so that what is left lives in harmony and balance.

Of course - but only after the cats have wiped out all the vulnerable native species.

None have been lost so far ...

And was it cats that killed the Tasmanian Tigers? ... and has it been cats that have nearly brought the Tasmanian Devils to extinction?

And how about the extinction of native birds on some of Australia's little offshore islands where imported rats off the old galleons ate all the eggs .... ?

The solution to the mainland feral cat problem is simple...

Tear down the Dingo Fence that stretches for thousands of miles up and down the continent.

Let the dingoes hunt in packs and decimate the feral cat population.

(I should get an Australian of the Year Award for this piece of brilliance).

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51834 At my desk.	Re: cat traps Reply #63 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:08am Is this what you mean by 'balance'? http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11500&sid=9cae4aa535cd79e... Quote: None have been lost so far ... Plenty have. Are you really unaware of what is happening?
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: cat traps Reply #64 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:08am mantra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:58am: Mantra... Quote: As a moderator - you can go into people's posts and edit swearing or abuse and also leave little comments. Usually it's helpful if you put them in a colour so the poster knows what's happening. Oh. I've done it again. I give up.
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Reply #65 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:19am

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Is this what you mean by 'balance'?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11500&sid=9cae4aa535cd79e...

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None have been lost so far ...

Plenty have. Are you really unaware of what is happening?

WHAT's 'happening'.. ?

It's NATURE that's 'happening'. It's all following a NATURAL course that was always inevitable.

No big deal. And those cats have been running around the Top End since a thousand years ago when fishing boats from Indonesia would make landfall to shelter from storms at sea.

Dear o dear ... the hysteria over a few lost native rats, lizards and dung beetles!

If they're so bloody sacred, why aren't they in zoos all over the world for protection, preservation, and breeding for the future?

Sacred bugs!

Every country in the world has stories of extinct animals. Get over it!

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Reply #66 - Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:38am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

mantra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2013 at 8:58am:

Mantra... Quote:

As a moderator - you can go into people's posts and edit swearing or abuse and also leave little comments. Usually it's helpful if you put them in a colour so the poster knows what's happening.

Oh.

I've done it again. I give up.

Haha. You're hitting the "edit" button instead of the "quote"button.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51834 At my desk.	Re: cat traps Reply #67 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:35pm Quote: Every country in the world has stories of extinct animals. Get over it! Sums up the attitude very nicely. Thanks Herbert.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: cat traps Reply #68 - Jun 19^th, 2013 at 10:20pm Snappy tom mixed with rat poison. Works a treat. If your cat does not come onto my property then there is no issue.
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Reply #69 - Jun 20^th, 2013 at 8:03am

freediver wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 9:35pm:

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Every country in the world has stories of extinct animals. Get over it!

Sums up the attitude very nicely. Thanks Herbert.

It's an attitude borne of accepting a reality that can never be changed. In these cases I simply move on. I don't become maudlin and filled with guilt and regret.

Our own politicians of all parties also don't give a damn. It would need them only to sign into law that all domestic cats must be de-sexed ... not just the females, and any cats found not de-sexed would incur draconian penalties upon the owners.

But the pollies have done absolutely nothing to address the problem of feral cats.

There's no bounty ... there's no bating ... there's no law to scare the shyte out of cat owners who can't be bothered to have their moggies de-sexed.

It's like trying to paddle away from a 20 foot tsunami wave approaching the beach. I prefer to just relax and enjoy the ride.

The dice are weighted overwhelmingly on the side of these outback pussy-cats.

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All it would need is for the federal government to give our Chinese community franchise rights over Australia's feral cats so they can trap them as an industry for export to China's restaurants and road-side eateries.

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Reply #70 - Jun 20^th, 2013 at 9:52am

ian wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Snappy tom mixed with rat poison. Works a treat. If your cat does not come onto my property then there is no issue.

I am not particularly a cat lover, but I guarantee that if I lost one of my animals by somebody like you poisoning them and I was aware of who it was, they would digest that sh1t as quickly as I could ram it down their throat.

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Reply #71 - Jun 20^th, 2013 at 9:56am

Socrates wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 9:52am:

ian wrote on Jun 19^th, 2013 at 10:20pm:

Snappy tom mixed with rat poison. Works a treat. If your cat does not come onto my property then there is no issue.

I am not particularly a cat lover, but I guarantee that if I lost one of my animals by somebody like you poisoning them and I was aware of who it was, they would digest that sh1t as quickly as I could ram it down their throat.

brave words. But thats all they are, words. Any cat (or dog) which comes onto my property is heading for oblivion. I dont tolerate human or animal predators in my vincinity.

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Re: cat traps
Reply #73 - Jun 20^th, 2013 at 10:49am

ian wrote on Jun 20^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

Any cat ... which comes onto my property is heading for oblivion.

That's a very immature attitude.

Do you ever intrude upon your neighbours' comfort and enjoyment of their property by such means as loud music, commercial activity, air conditioning running outside of council-prescribed hours, or noisy ball games that are more suited to the local park for the racket the neighbours have to put up with?

Got a barking dog? A cage full of screeching parrots in the backyard? A stinking noisy truck that you park outside in the residential street?

These are all WAY more disrupting, intrusive, and anti-social 'trespassing' upon your neighbour's comfort and enjoyment than a quiet cat having a peaceful sniff around your backyard.

It might be time for you to grow up and be a responsible adult. It's not a sign of toughness to target a cat for killing on your property. It's just a pathetic excuse to feel a sense of power over a defenceless creature.

It's pathetic. It's juvenile. It's delinquent and stupid.

As social human beings who live packed together in suburban neighbourhoods we all have a covenant with one another to behave reasonably and with a civilised care for one another ~ and what this means is that we practice a certain degree of tolerance for each others idiosyncrasies and pet-ownership.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: cat traps Reply #74 - Jun 20^th, 2013 at 10:54am I didnt say i lived in a suburban environment, Regardless of which I disagree. Like I said, I do not tolerate animal or human predators on my property. Loud music is completly irrelevant.
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