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Reply #45 - Jan 26th, 2011 at 9:08am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 25th, 2011 at 10:55pm:
What would be the 'ideal' size? I would have thought of a cat as ideal. Any smaller and you risk mishitting.


They have to be suffering without hope before I've done it, but you just wrap the bird/guinea pig/baby mice in a soft cloth on the ground - feel for the back of their neck and give it one quick hit with a rolling pin. I prefer the ether method though.

Cats would be too strong and put up a fight.

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I Interesting. Is that what they use in movies with a cloth?


Yes.  Shocked
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Reply #46 - May 29th, 2013 at 7:50pm
 
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Reply #47 - Jun 4th, 2013 at 2:04pm
 
jame-e wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 9:02pm:
Kat wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:
Ferals I have no argies with, but, as freediver said, how would
you feel if it turned out to be the neighbours' kid's pet.


Not that bad if it was caught over night without a bell and/or id tags.

I couldn't believe the reaction i got from some off my family when i said one of their neighbours was justified when he warned of traps.

He had seen 'cats' kill native birds in his backyard... Fair enough i say.


He's talking absolute bullsh*t. "Native birds" ~ my arse!

Sparrows, introduced pigeons, Indian Mynas, Bulbuls (not native to Australia), blackbirds, thrushes ... etc... all immigrants.

If a cat grabbed a white or black cockatoo it would be shredded within half a minute.

Galahs are so plentiful it's not a problem if a few get culled.

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I bought my cat-trap ages ago from the local hardware store. (Made in India ~ $60). I've caught several cats harmlessly - to be re-homed or put down by my local vet at no cost to me.

Very simple. Very basic. No violence. No cruelty.

Only ever had to set the trap for one night each cat. Warm barbecue chicken smells for miles and works every time.

I once caught a feral that was both the most evil-looking cat, and the most beautiful I've ever seen. Long black haired mane and piercing yellow eyes. When he looked straight into my eyes I felt a chill go down my back. The purrfect killing machine.

I knew by the looks of it that it was way beyond any prospect of being domesticated.

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Reply #48 - Jun 4th, 2013 at 5:41pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5th, 2011 at 10:39pm:
cats should be trained to kill Indian minor birds as they are now in plague proportions and killing off other native birds Sad


You're quite right. When I bought my property 22 years ago, Indian Myna birds were a real rarity around here.

And now they're in plague proportions. Aggressive little buggers who strut about like they own the place.

I'm thinking of buying a blunderbuss. For my neighbour's chickens.

Well okay ~ for the Indian Myna birds too.  Cool
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Reply #49 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 7:24pm
 
So Herbert believes cats can't kill native birds?
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Reply #50 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 8:43pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 7:24pm:
So Herbert believes cats can't kill native birds?


There must be another 'Herbert' registered here, because I've never said cats can't kill native birds.

It's not the killing of native birds that is the worry.

The killing of native birds is overwhelmingly due to imported birds occupying their nesting places and feeding off their resources, and humans expanding into bushlands. Cats are WAY down the list of culprits responsible for the extermination of Australia's native bird population.

Again, in the 22 years I've had cats on my property they only killed exotic birds that are not native to Australia ~ and in doing that they have rendered a service to the native species.



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Reply #51 - Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm
 
So cats kill the foreign birds who have evolved to live with the constant threat of cats, and not the native birds who haven't? And you know this because you see every single animal your cats kill?
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Reply #52 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 7:27am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
So cats kill the foreign birds who have evolved to live with the constant threat of cats, and not the native birds who haven't? And you know this because you see every single animal your cats kill?


Actually, yes.

And here I might have a credibility problem with you. Cats behave in a totally different way towards you if you live alone with them, and they regard you as the 'den mother'.

(Others here may confirm this).

Every 'kill' my cats make ~ they bring to me, whether it's a sparrow or a skink. It's part of their instinctive 'moral' ethic to show me their booty ... but then they usually run like hell if I try to snatch this off them.

Upon waking in the morning, my two male cats (not the female) won't eat out of the biscuit bowl until they've 'touched base' with me first. They'll come and nudge me for a brief petting ~ and only then will they go to eat out of the bowl. It seems to be a 'getting your permission first' thing... maybe to save themselves from getting beaten up for presuming to have 'first bite' before me ~ the 'alpha-male'.

They all follow me around the property like dogs ~ (despite having full bellies). So far as they're concerned, I'm 'Top Cat' ~ the leader of the gang.

Cats in family situations are a totally different animal. 

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Reply #53 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 7:34am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
So cats kill the foreign birds who have evolved to live with the constant threat of cats, and not the native birds who haven't? And you know this because you see every single animal your cats kill?


Nature eventually sorts itself out so that what is left lives in harmony and balance.

Freediver ~ it's time you learnt to love the ferals. I'm sending you a bumper sticker for your car...

I LOVE FERAL CATS ~ AND SO DOES JESUS!


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Reply #54 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:03am
 
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Cats behave in a totally different way towards you if you live alone with them, and they regard you as the 'den mother'.

(Others here may confirm this).

Every 'kill' my cats make ~ they bring to me, whether it's a sparrow or a skink. It's part of their instinctive 'moral' ethic to show me their booty ... but then they usually run like hell if I try to snatch this off them.


This is very true and it does apply to cats who have an owner who cares for them and keeps a careful watch over them.

The cats I had for many years were always dropping little dead mice on my doorstep. To my knowledge they caught no birds apart from a little love bird, which unfortunately had escaped from my aviary a couple of days before. A quick chop to the back of the neck made him release it.

The first thing the little cat I recently adopted did was go under the house and drag out a rotting, maggoty rat carcass and bring it to me. She spends most of her time there now chasing baby rats.

The pity of it is - too many people don't care about their cats and they are left to wander when they're hungry or neglected - particularly young renters who move on and leave the cat behind.

I have seen many a shredded bird in my yard during the period I didn't have cats. Some I blame on the sea hawks - others are killed by local domestic cats.

Dogs do almost as much damage to lizards, birds and other small animals if they get the opportunity.

I'm still not overly enthusiastic about cats, but having one that I can keep an eye on does keep other cats out.
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Reply #55 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:22am
 
mantra wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:03am:
A quick chop to the back of the neck made him release it.


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mantra wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:03am:
She spends most of her time there now chasing baby rats.


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Ideally, domestic cats should live where at least one person is at home all the time.

For a year I had a problem with a neighbour's cat that kept coming over to beat up the two cats that I had at that time (I still have them). This cat was neglected, bored, and de-socialised. It had become almost as aggressive as a feral because no one was at home during working hours.

It was costing me heaps at the vets in abscess bills.

And then a miracle happened.

Out of absolutely nowhere this enormous black male 'Bombay' breed cat turned up on my property as a traumatised cat that hid under the house for a week - where I fed it, accompanied by my two little cats.

Result? It crept into the bedroom one day when I had the backdoor open. I left it there, undisturbed, to give it time to relax.

During the following days it beat the sh*t out of the neighbour's cat every time it came sneaking into the backyard to beat up Gizmo and Muffin.

I now haven't even seen the neighbour's cat for over a year ...

Meanwhile, Sooty thinks the sun shines out of my ... um ... (to be continued).  Cool

 
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Reply #56 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:25am
 
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They all follow me around the property like dogs


Mantra...

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My old murdered tom cat used to do similar. If I took the dogs for a long walk he'd follow us. He loved walking to the local shop and he'd wait outside for me. He thought was a dog.


Wow. That's special.

I once saw a segment on 'A Current Affairs' in which a very elderly man who lived alone was being moved to an Aged Care facility. He stood there crying his eyes out when someone came to take his cat away. The Home didn't allow for animals.

If I ever become a millionaire I'll make certain to build an Old People's Home where they can live with their cats, dogs, and canaries.

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Reply #57 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:46am
 
Herbert - you've accidentally edited my post with your comments. It's an easy enough mistake - I've done it myself more than once.

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If I ever become a millionaire I'll make certain to build an Old People's Home where they can live with their cats, dogs, and canaries.


You see these sad scenarios all the time, particularly with dogs. A relative or friend begrudgingly takes on the dog or cat after a death and then the animal runs away or is seriously neglected.
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Reply #58 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:52am
 
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And here I might have a credibility problem with you.


Grin It's funny because it's true.

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Nature eventually sorts itself out so that what is left lives in harmony and balance.


Of course - but only after the cats have wiped out all the vulnerable native species.
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Reply #59 - Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:55am
 
mantra wrote on Jun 7th, 2013 at 8:46am:
Herbert - you've accidentally edited my post with your comments. It's an easy enough mistake - I've done it myself more than once.


Huh? How is it possible for me to access your post with your avatar there?

If Freediver wasn't out in the bush right now bounty hunting feral cats I would report this to him immediately.  Cool




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