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Reply #120 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 11:17am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 9:47am:
Herbert it sounds like the cat used to live with an obese and aggressive dog.


Of all the cats I've had over the past 22 years, this big black male is the most doting upon me. I don't think he can believe his luck. Someone had made his life a hell by enjoying scaring him out of his wits.

In just the past 5 years my neighbourhood has been invaded by Pacific Islanders. A hundred villas a year have been built in this area, and it wouldn't surprise me if Sooty was a refugee from some Pacific Islander home around here.

Not all cultures are the same.

There's strength in diversity.

We are One but we are Many.

Celebrate our Differences.

Proudly Multicultural because we're not all singing from the same page. The greater the difference from our own moral heritage ~ the prouder we are to host this antipathy to our own values.




 
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Reply #121 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 6:09pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 5th, 2013 at 7:14pm:
Great story, Mantra.


Thanks Herbert - although this cat would have to be one of the less interesting animals I've owned. She's not even grateful that I rescued her. It would be nice to have an affectionate animal - so you're lucky Sooty is so insecure.

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In just the past 5 years my neighbourhood has been invaded by Pacific Islanders. A hundred villas a year have been built in this area, and it wouldn't surprise me if Sooty was a refugee from some Pacific Islander home around here.

Not all cultures are the same.

There's strength in diversity.

We are One but we are Many.

Celebrate our Differences.

Proudly Multicultural because we're not all singing from the same page. The greater the difference from our own moral heritage ~ the prouder we are to host this antipathy to our own values.


There are a lot of Pacific Islanders in my area also. Some cultures only look at animals as food and haven't been raised to feel affection towards them.

It's not just people from developing nations who are cruel. The Americans with their obsession for hunting and trapping are barbaric. Aside from the old English gentry - who thankfully are dying out, what other nation of people decorate their homes with animal heads. In Africa they're breeding lions who live to adulthood in small cages specifically so the rich yanks can put a bullet in them and take the head home as a trophy.

We've started doing the same here with crocodiles to cater to their gluttony.

There's extreme cruelty everywhere even in the civilised western nations.
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Reply #122 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 8:40pm
 
mantra wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 6:09pm:
.. It would be nice to have an affectionate animal - so you're lucky Sooty is so insecure.


Grin

I don't think Sooty will ever get over his paranoia, but overall he's a lot more settled than he was at first.

A big surprise to me has been how he accepted my own two cats as 'family'. About a week after he finally came out from under the house, a cat from across the road that's been visiting me for years came strolling into the backyard.

And that's when this new cat 'Sooty' put on a display of aggression like I've never seen before in real life or on film. He made this extraordinary noise that at first I wondered where it came from. It was a full-bodied roaring sound, with spittle flying. His whole body visibly vibrated.

Oscar has been Top Cat in these parts for almost his whole 18 years, but this was something way beyond anything he'd seen or heard before. He shot up a tree and stayed there until dark.

If I could have got Sooty's performance on film, it would have been of genuine interest to zoologists and whoever. I was actually a bit worried for myself for a couple of days. Did you ever see the movie 'An American werewolf in Paris'? That's Sooty when he's a little upset about something.  Grin Grin

But! He has never laid a single claw on me for all the time I've had him here. Every day he hops up on the table with wheels I have here, and eyeballs me only inches from my face with those enormous, golden orb eyes of his that are straight from the forests of primordial pre-history ~ and I'm damn glad he's on my side ...   

mantra wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 6:09pm:
There are a lot of Pacific Islanders in my area also. Some cultures only look at animals as food and haven't been raised to feel affection towards them.


I was wrong to generalise in such a way. On the few occasions that the news has brought stories of cats being set alight, it's been Anglo youths who were the culprits.

mantra wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 6:09pm:
It's not just people from developing nations who are cruel. The Americans with their obsession for hunting and trapping are barbaric. Aside from the old English gentry - who thankfully are dying out, what other nation of people decorate their homes with animal heads. In Africa they're breeding lions who live to adulthood in small cages specifically so the rich yanks can put a bullet in them and take the head home as a trophy.

We've started doing the same here with crocodiles to cater to their gluttony.

There's extreme cruelty everywhere even in the civilised western nations.


I agree. I think the culture which sees men go out into the woods to shoot deer and whatever else, so they can take photos and hang the heads on their walls ~ is pathetic. I keep getting into trouble with my rightwing compatriots for holding to this attitude.

I say "Grow up! ~ and take a camera, not a gun".




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Reply #123 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 8:42pm
 
Hmmmm, why is it that Bullfighting is still going on

I hate that
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Reply #124 - Jul 7th, 2013 at 8:50pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jul 7th, 2013 at 8:42pm:
Hmmmm, why is it that Bullfighting is still going on

I hate that


Didn't Spain recently announce it was banning it? I'll check with Google later.

As a kid I spent a couple of summer holidays in the south of France with my cousins whose parents owned a vineyard. They would take me to a small town where there would be an annual bull fighting festival all day long. 

What it consisted of was the local youths jumping over the backs of charging cows.  Grin It was dangerous. They were brave kids. Everyone had a lot of fun and a lot of laughs ~ and at the end of the day the cows were bedded down in lush hay until the next festival in a years time.
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Reply #125 - Jul 8th, 2013 at 9:48am
 
SO what were these arseholes doing setting traps for deers in the middle of dense rain forests?

Shall I guess?

They sell deer penises to the Chinese medicine bullshit artists for a small fortune.

Leave them up the tree.

I believe tigers can climb trees, can't they?  Cool Darwin's Natural Selection in action.

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Reply #126 - Jul 8th, 2013 at 10:06am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 8th, 2013 at 9:48am:
SO what were these arseholes doing setting traps for deers in the middle of dense rain forests?

Shall I guess?

They sell deer penises to the Chinese medicine bullshit artists for a small fortune.

Leave them up the tree.

I believe tigers can climb trees, can't they?  Cool Darwin's Natural Selection in action.



They'll be rescued eventually. Even if they do get eaten - there will be another dozen or so trappers to replace them.

We'll be seeing similar in NSW in a few months. O'Farrell seems to rely on the Shooters Party to get his controversial legislation through.

Maybe a couple of them will be gored by wild boar?

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Our national parks will be ravaged by amateur hunters - shooting at anything which moves. The only way to stop this potential devastation will be for a visitor to be shot.

A national park should be a safe haven and peaceful place for all visitors (and the animals who live there!), not a personal hunting ground for a small minority who choose to kill animals for 'sport'.

Despite claims, allowing amateur shooters into our national parks will not provide any real conservation benefit - this is just 'recreational' hunting dressed up as 'pest' animal control.

The proposal was originally cooked up by the NSW Game Council — a controversial taxpayer-funded group headed by shooters and soon to be abolished after a review found it lacked accountability and paid too little attention to public safety. Surely this should mean that this controversial and unpopular plan should be scrapped too.

If you live in NSW, please use the form below to send an urgent message to Premier Barry O'Farrell and your Coalition MP, urging them to repeal the dangerous laws allowing amateur hunters in national parks.

If you live outside NSW, please send an email to Premier Barry O'Farrell directly.


http://www.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/stop-shooting-in-nsw-national-parks
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Reply #127 - Jul 8th, 2013 at 10:59am
 
I don't mind if there is a real case for culling of kangaroos, deers, pigs, foxes, rabbits, feral cats, brumbies, camels, abos, crocodiles, American tourists, Muslims, flying foxes, dingoes, homosexuals, university students, sharks, snakes, bush rats and so on.

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Reply #128 - Jul 23rd, 2013 at 8:30pm
 
Qld sucks when it comes to the enviroment & wildlife, but at least we are winning the 'Cat' race.
It has been illegal for several years for any cat to leave their owners property. All cats must be de-sexed, microchipped and registered. If a cat strays out of it's yard it may be 'arrested' & impounded.
Personally I don't understand how a human can declare their love for a cat and then let it out side at all, to risk being run over, getting Feline AIDS, bashed up ect. To me this is  NOT a sign of LOVE or RESPECT.
I fellow who builds (personally designed to peoples needs & house situation 'Happy Cat Enclosures') make me a Koala Joey & Mac Joey area so Powerful Owls, Hawks ect can't get to the little ones, but they can still be outside.
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Reply #129 - Jul 23rd, 2013 at 8:53pm
 
A big welcome from me for your first post here.

Your heart's in the right place and I agree with most of what you've said.

As for letting your cats outside, this issue will always divide the cat-owning community like nothing else.

If I was utterly selfish with my three cats, I would never let them out. I would have them locked in the house for my own selfish convenience, 24/7.

I decided long ago not to selfishly keep my cats in ignorance of the joys of being a cat in the backyard and around the rest of the property. I've let them vote with their feet ... and it works out that it's about 50/50 for them in the garden and the house.

I have cat-flaps in the front and backdoor through which they come and go at their will. At night they're locked in the house.

This arrangement means they have the best of both worlds ~ the indoor security and the playground on the outside.

Needless to say my cats are specially injected against feline AIDS beside the normal annual shots.


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Reply #130 - Jul 24th, 2013 at 6:36am
 
Koala-Kanga-Mumma wrote on Jul 23rd, 2013 at 8:30pm:
Qld sucks when it comes to the enviroment & wildlife, but at least we are winning the 'Cat' race.
It has been illegal for several years for any cat to leave their owners property. All cats must be de-sexed, microchipped and registered. If a cat strays out of it's yard it may be 'arrested' & impounded.
Personally I don't understand how a human can declare their love for a cat and then let it out side at all, to risk being run over, getting Feline AIDS, bashed up ect. To me this is  NOT a sign of LOVE or RESPECT.
I fellow who builds (personally designed to peoples needs & house situation 'Happy Cat Enclosures') make me a Koala Joey & Mac Joey area so Powerful Owls, Hawks ect can't get to the little ones, but they can still be outside. 


Welcome to Ozpolitic Koala-Kanga-Mumma.

I was nagged into adopting a cat a year ago. I don't love her, but I like her. I let her outside usually when she demands it, because she's extremely intelligent and most of the time obedient. I check on her a dozen times a day and she's always close, even if she's out of sight. She makes a quick appearance to reassure me, then she's gone again.

She has her freedom because I can sense that in her earlier life she was confined to a small space and I know she was starved. In her own selfish cat way - she tries to show me that she appreciates the comfortable life I've given her.

It is extremely cruel to keep cats inside all the time. Some people even de-claw them so they don't mess the furniture up.

She might just get run over one day, or poisoned or trapped by a cruel neighbour, but for the moment she appears to be content and happy. She's a lucky cat though - she found her way to my front door. Even if she's into her last life, I believe it will be a long one.

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Reply #131 - Jul 24th, 2013 at 9:25am
 
mantra wrote on Jul 24th, 2013 at 6:36am:
She might just get run over one day, or poisoned or trapped by a cruel neighbour, but for the moment she appears to be content and happy. She's a lucky cat though - she found her way to my front door. Even if she's into her last life, I believe it will be a long one.


That's my philosophy too.

It's more risky to their health outside of the house, but the compensation is a much happier and fuller enjoyment of their cat-lives.
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