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Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 7:35pm

I called the council about disposing of some cats this morning. Apparently they will do it commercial property, but in residential areas you have to do it yourself. That means you have to hire a cat trap or pay someone to come out and set one.

Does this seem reasonable to you?

I think it just encourages people to not bother dealing with the problem. It's not like a feral cat will stick around one residential property. I have seen it at around half a dozen properties nearby. I have only seen it inside my yard since it had kittens. The council's policy forces people to take financial responsibility for a problem that someone else created.

It also encourages people to take a simpler option, like hitting it over the head with a cricket bat. This is arguably more humane, though it is hard to change your mind if it turns out to be someone'e pet.

Anyway, I just finished building myself a simple deadfall trap and have put some old tinned fish out beside it to get the cat used to it.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: cat traps Reply #1 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:32pm Considering in some Councils the pound charges you to take them off your hands, some people do take the "bat" option to remove them. Its sad, but feral cats are a problem, they attack domestic cats and birdlife doesnt stand a chance. Im lucky I have a couple of 30kg dogs to look after our cat.
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: cat traps Reply #2 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm I really wouldn't like to be the fellow who tried to trap my cat, if I caught him. Ferals I have no argies with, but, as freediver said, how would you feel if it turned out to be the neighbours' kid's pet.
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Re: cat traps
Reply #3 - Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 9:02pm

Kat wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:

Ferals I have no argies with, but, as freediver said, how would
you feel if it turned out to be the neighbours' kid's pet.

Not that bad if it was caught over night without a bell and/or id tags.

I couldn't believe the reaction i got from some off my family when i said one of their neighbours was justified when he warned of traps.

He had seen 'cats' kill native birds in his backyard... Fair enough i say.

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Reply #4 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:00pm

jame-e wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 9:02pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:

Ferals I have no argies with, but, as freediver said, how would
you feel if it turned out to be the neighbours' kid's pet.

Not that bad if it was caught over night without a bell and/or id tags.

I couldn't believe the reaction i got from some off my family when i said one of their neighbours was justified when he warned of traps.

He had seen 'cats' kill native birds in his backyard... Fair enough i say.

And lizards and other such things, then again, i have seen my dog go them as well, not to mention the amount that are killed by Humans.

But hey, best we get rid of cats !!

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: cat traps Reply #5 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:09pm Feral cats are the Muslims of the animal world. We even had a suicide bomber cat here yesterday. Blew up our little dog`s kennel.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: cat traps Reply #6 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:11pm aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:09pm: Feral cats are the Muslims of the animal world. We even had a suicide bomber cat here yesterday. Blew up our little dog`s kennel. Are you sure that wasn't the 12 gauge you hit it with AF2R???
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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: cat traps Reply #7 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:13pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:11pm: aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:09pm: Feral cats are the Muslims of the animal world. We even had a suicide bomber cat here yesterday. Blew up our little dog`s kennel. Are you sure that wasn't the 12 gauge you hit it with AF2R??? #3
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Reply #8 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:19pm

Verge wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:32pm:

Considering in some Councils the pound charges you to take them off your hands, some people do take the "bat" option to remove them.

Its sad, but feral cats are a problem, they attack domestic cats and birdlife doesnt stand a chance.

Im lucky I have a couple of 30kg dogs to look after our cat.

LOL Verge, I've seen some ferals that run close to 30kg..(well 15-20kg anyway)..

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Reply #9 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:45pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 1:19pm:

Verge wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:32pm:

Considering in some Councils the pound charges you to take them off your hands, some people do take the "bat" option to remove them.

Its sad, but feral cats are a problem, they attack domestic cats and birdlife doesnt stand a chance.

Im lucky I have a couple of 30kg dogs to look after our cat.

LOL Verge, I've seen some ferals that run close to 30kg..(well 15-20kg anyway)..

Holy crap!!!!

The one feral we had floating around beat up our cat, so now the dogs are let into the front yard to stop that. Our labs are really protective of the cat, and our cat is always locked up of a night and doesnt go out of the yard.

I had found out that the 'feral' actually belonged to someone, but in essence they only feed it and thats it. Other than that its an outside cat 100% of the time and no real human contact. When I spoke to them they said "not our problem mate, its nature." When I retorted with "well, it will be nature when I drop the parts back on your yard after my dogs tear it appart too wont it." It seems to have worked, but our dogs have hunted a few others thats for sure.

Irresponsible cat owners peeve me. They need to be locked up of a night, and monitored during the day.

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: cat traps Reply #10 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 7:32pm "Irresponsible cat owners peeve me. They need to be locked up of a night, and monitored during the day. " Agreed, their cats too,
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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: cat traps Reply #11 - Jan 4^th, 2011 at 8:29pm aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 7:32pm: "Irresponsible cat owners peeve me. They need to be locked up of a night, and monitored during the day. " Agreed, their cats too, Gold! Cats should be locked up 100% of the time; any cat is an accomplished killer; it's instinctive.
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Reply #12 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:13am

qikvtec wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 8:29pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 7:32pm:

"Irresponsible cat owners peeve me. They need to be locked up of a night, and monitored during the day. "

Agreed, their cats too,

Gold!

Cats should be locked up 100% of the time; any cat is an accomplished killer; it's instinctive.

Agree. Any cat owner who thinks their cat doesn't kill because they only go out in the daytime is simply naive.

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And lizards and other such things, then again, i have seen my dog go them as well, not to mention the amount that are killed by Humans.

But hey, best we get rid of cats !!

Cat and other ferals are up there with habitat destruction in causing extinctions. So yes it is best we get rid of them, or at least the feral ones.

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Reply #13 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:25am

freediver wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:13am:

qikvtec wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 8:29pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 7:32pm:

"Irresponsible cat owners peeve me. They need to be locked up of a night, and monitored during the day. "

Agreed, their cats too,

Gold!

Cats should be locked up 100% of the time; any cat is an accomplished killer; it's instinctive.

Agree. Any cat owner who thinks their cat doesn't kill because they only go out in the daytime is simply naive.

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And lizards and other such things, then again, i have seen my dog go them as well, not to mention the amount that are killed by Humans.

But hey, best we get rid of cats !!

Cat and other ferals are up there with habitat destruction in causing extinctions. So yes it is best we get rid of them, or at least the feral ones.

The best our cast has got is some locusts and a couple of little lizards, and considering our dogs also do that I cant say much. Our cat hasnt got a bird, and come to think of it I have never even seen her try. This bloody cat is the closest thing I have seen to a dog without being one. It eats with them, sleeps with them and plays with them.

I am confident that our cat hasnt been distructive to date. I know its their instinct to hunt though, and will monitor and bad bird hunting behaviour.

A lot of it comes down to training too, and people dont tend to train cats. I took another path, a from when it was first home it learnt its name, and comes inside on one call and a couple of whistles. The bloody thing knows the sound of the car, and greets us at the gate when we get home, even if she is in the back yard and cant actually see us.
They are great pets, but like dogs, are only so with disciplined owners.

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Reply #14 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:36am

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The best our cast has got is some locusts and a couple of little lizards

How do you know?

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I am confident that our cat hasnt been distructive to date.

So eating native reptiles is not destructive? Only birds count?

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A lot of it comes down to training too, and people dont tend to train cats.

You cannot train the killer instinct out of a cat. How does coming on command prevent it killing?

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The bloody thing knows the sound of the car, and greets us at the gate when we get home

So, you let your cat hunt freely while you are out, but insist you know what it does?

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