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What is politics thread?
Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:25pm
 
With all these threads being moved for apparently random reasons can someone actually DEFINE what an acceptable politics thread is? If discussion on climate change and NBN isnt politics and anything that a mod doesnt like ending up in some othe place so it can die, exactly what is suppsoed to be the nature of this board?

this seems to happen too often on here. political discussion is wide-ranging, partisan, rude and yes it even strays off topic.

If you even want a politics board then perhaps move those threads that are totally off topic and leave the rest.

Your right to do what you want on your own board is unequivocal. Just dont expect praise for quasi-censorship.
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Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm
 
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


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A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
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Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:56pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


FD can we have a board then for oversea politicians etc etc etc then?
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Reply #3 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:57pm
 
I thought that was Think Globally????
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Reply #4 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.



Oh my apologies. I thought a website called ozPOLITIC and a board on politicians might actually want discussions on POLITICS.

oh and by the way if you actually make a thread about how gillard or Abbott SUCK mozza just unilaterally moves it to the extremism board.

so how about you make up your mind about that you want? do you want a politics board or not? do you want political discussion or not? If so then create a board for ACTUAL POLITICS or do we all just jump in the general board and discuss politics? so you either want political discussion or not. and if not, change your domain name.
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Reply #5 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:01pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


So tell me why the NBN is not a party policy?
Explain why Climate change is not a party and policy issue?

I cant work you out. you have bugger-all to actually say on the board but when you do it is to do things like this.
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Reply #6 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:11pm
 
I'm thinking I will just keep to posting and reading general section, then I will not be posting in the wrong section.

Easy solution
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Reply #7 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:12pm
 
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Reply #8 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:15pm
 
____ wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:11pm:
I'm thinking I will just keep to posting and reading general section, then I will not be posting in the wrong section.

Easy solution


and on 1/1/11 we agreed...

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Reply #9 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:17pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:59pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.



Oh my apologies. I thought a website called ozPOLITIC and a board on politicians might actually want discussions on POLITICS.


So, we have a politics forum with about 20 boards, but you think only one of those is for politics?

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oh and by the way if you actually make a thread about how gillard or Abbott SUCK mozza just unilaterally moves it to the extremism board.


That must make it confusing for you.

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

Quote:
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


So tell me why the NBN is not a party policy?
Explain why Climate change is not a party and policy issue?

I cant work you out. you have bugger-all to actually say on the board but when you do it is to do things like this.


Here's how it works. I try to judge what the thread is actually about. If it focusses on mindless partisan cheerleading, it goes here. If it is about the issue itself rather than the players, it goes in one of the other boards.
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Reply #10 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:18pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

Quote:
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


So tell me why the NBN is not a party policy?
Explain why Climate change is not a party and policy issue?

I cant work you out. you have bugger-all to actually say on the board but when you do it is to do things like this.

There's an environment board for "climate change" discussion.
There is also a tech board where the NBN could be discussed, though I do tend to agree that as its a political policy of Labor to have it, that it probably should be in the politicians suck board.


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Reply #11 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm
 
I think the problem is that since all you newbies turned up the politicians suck board has been used for many things not suitable to it, because most of you realise its the board that has the most traffic.
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Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm
 
There were at least a dozen threads on the NBN. I think I only moved one or two of them.
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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm:
There were at least a dozen threads on the NBN. I think I only moved one or two of them.

To me thats the problem, so many threads are started about the same subject just with a different tilt on them.
how many ways can they say they hate Gillard Labor?
Its not just the newbies who do it, sprint finds a new way to say he hates Gillard every day.
Maybe we should just have an I hate Labor thread and an I hate liberal thread, and all the mindless bitching about both parties could go into those threads.
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Reply #14 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:27pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

Quote:
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


So tell me why the NBN is not a party policy?
Explain why Climate change is not a party and policy issue?

I cant work you out. you have bugger-all to actually say on the board but when you do it is to do things like this.

There's an environment board for "climate change" discussion.
There is also a tech board where the NBN could be discussed, though I do tend to agree that as its a political policy of Labor to have it, that it probably should be in the politicians suck board.



Yeah Skippy, but there IS a difference between the 'science' of climate change and the 'political' implications of same...don't you agree??
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Reply #15 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:31pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:24pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm:
There were at least a dozen threads on the NBN. I think I only moved one or two of them.

To me thats the problem, so many threads are started about the same subject just with a different tilt on them.
how many ways can they say they hate Gillard Labor?
Its not just the newbies who do it, sprint finds a new way to say he hates Gillard every day.
Maybe we should just have an I hate Labor thread and an I hate liberal thread, and all the mindless bitching about both parties could go into those threads.


I used to merge threads like that, but it is too much effort. I see 99% of partisan debates the same way you see sprints threads. This is the spot to dump all of it.

If sprint is getting responses and starting debate, good for him.
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Reply #16 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:38pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:27pm:
skippy. wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:18pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:01pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

Quote:
Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


So tell me why the NBN is not a party policy?
Explain why Climate change is not a party and policy issue?

I cant work you out. you have bugger-all to actually say on the board but when you do it is to do things like this.

There's an environment board for "climate change" discussion.
There is also a tech board where the NBN could be discussed, though I do tend to agree that as its a political policy of Labor to have it, that it probably should be in the politicians suck board.



Yeah Skippy, but there IS a difference between the 'science' of climate change and the 'political' implications of same...don't you agree??

Climate change is a science debate, though the debate is over, most science agrees its imminent.
In fact the only people confused about it are from the far right of politics, who have always cared more about their own pockets than their own children's future.
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Well its not hard to get response to "I hate Gillard " when there is a feeding frenzy mentality from the right wing of this forum.
Though the left wing of the forum, and I admit to being guilty, like to chew on " I hate Abbott" threads, we don't start them ad nauseum on a daily basis, in fact I think you'd be hard pressed to find a thread anywhere near that description, though there are Gillard bashing threads many with the same contents of existing threads started daily.
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Reply #18 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:47pm
 
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Well its not hard to get response to "I hate Gillard "


You are right. People have very little self control. But I am happy to cater for them also.
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Reply #19 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:55pm
 
skippy. wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:24pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm:
There were at least a dozen threads on the NBN. I think I only moved one or two of them.

To me thats the problem, so many threads are started about the same subject just with a different tilt on them.
how many ways can they say they hate Gillard Labor?
Its not just the newbies who do it, sprint finds a new way to say he hates Gillard every day.
Maybe we should just have an I hate Labor thread and an I hate liberal thread, and all the mindless bitching about both parties could go into those threads.



Skippy, I`m still waiting for some unmindlesness from you.
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aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:55pm:
skippy. wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:24pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:20pm:
There were at least a dozen threads on the NBN. I think I only moved one or two of them.

To me thats the problem, so many threads are started about the same subject just with a different tilt on them.
how many ways can they say they hate Gillard Labor?
Its not just the newbies who do it, sprint finds a new way to say he hates Gillard every day.
Maybe we should just have an I hate Labor thread and an I hate liberal thread, and all the mindless bitching about both parties could go into those threads.



Skippy, I`m still waiting for some unmindlesness from you.

Of course you are. But your mindless brain does not allow it.
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Still waiting.
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Reply #22 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 3:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 12:45pm:
The board title is not politics. It is "Politicians Suck".

I have added this description:

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Australian politicians, parties, elections and party policies.


I wanted to include Quote:
A home for mindless partisan cheerleaders
but it was too long.


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Re: NOTE ON STARTING NEW THREADS
Reply #38 - Sep 22nd, 2010, 10:52pm   This board is for partisan issues - about (Australian) politicians, political parties and party policies. If your thread does is not about one of these please please put it on one of the other boards. For some reason p[eople seem to think this is the general board. Or maybe they just want to put their special post on the most popular board.

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Having a "Politicians Suck" board is too restrictive, it should simply be "POLITICS".

In any event, it is VERY hit & miss on what is allowed & what gets moved.

The boards would be better of, if moderators looked at those posts that are offensive & dealt with them & those who post them & let the rest take care of itself!
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Having a "Politicians Suck" board is too restrictive, it should simply be "POLITICS".


How is it restrictive? You do realise there are other boards, right? Wouldn't it be confusing to have a politics sub-board on a politics forum?
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Wouldn't it be confusing to have a politics sub-board on a politics forum?


It would seem that there's a few who think that "Politicians Suck" is the only politics board on here.
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Reply #25 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 3:54pm:
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Having a "Politicians Suck" board is too restrictive, it should simply be "POLITICS".


How is it restrictive? You do realise there are other boards, right? Wouldn't it be confusing to have a politics sub-board on a politics forum?


Because there is a lot more to Politics, than Politicians who Suck!

By your own definition, "This board is for partisan issues - about (Australian) politicians, political parties and party policies".

That statement encompasses the broad spectrum of Politics, everything related to Politicians, their Party's & their policies come under that umbrella.

There are other boards and they are appropriate, a politics sub-board is not required, but "Politics Suck" should simply should be expanded to all things Political, as per your own statement.

Moderators could then focus more on addressing some of the offensive posts & posters!
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In fact this discussion bears a reprint of my thoughts on the Board, from December 12th, 2010.  
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Reply #126 - Dec 12th, 2010, 4:32pm   muso wrote on Dec 12th, 2010, 2:33pm:


It seems that the very structure of the boards lends itself to some of the reason (in fact, quite a bit), for the attention of moderators.

If the boards were re-organised along the following lines, then it would "lessen the number of posts that need to be moved", which seems to be one of the prevalent issues -
General Board - including Chat sub-heading
Global Thinking Board - to include all things Global
Political Board - All things relevant to Australian Politics, including sub-headings for Sustainability Party, Liberal Democratic Party and Economics (Federal & State)
Fedback Board - including Technically Speaking sub-heading
Spirituallity, Religion Board - including Islam sub-heading
Health & Wellbeing Board - including sub-headings for Relationships, Secret Womens Business & Multiculturalism & Race, Philosophy and Drugs
Environment Board - including Hunting & Fishing sub-heading
Finance & Shares Board - including sub-headings for Finance News & Stocks & Shares Talk
Other Board - including sub-headings for Fringe, Transport, Extremism

A revamp in the above line may immediately cut out some of the need for "threads & posts" being moved, although frankly, I don't think "moving threads" achieves a great deal, anyway.

The main bugbear with internet boards (everywhere), are mainly via the attitudes of people, who are intolerant that everyone has differring perceptions of the same set of facts and that will remain.

The 'trick" being to allow discussion, but bring down the curtain on abuse!

Btw, you are also correct about these boards & democracy!
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Reply #27 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 5:39pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:15pm:
____ wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:11pm:
I'm thinking I will just keep to posting and reading general section, then I will not be posting in the wrong section.

Easy solution


and on 1/1/11 we agreed...

stellar day!



It's still 12/31/10 actually.


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Reply #28 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 5:58pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 5:39pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:15pm:
____ wrote on Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:11pm:
I'm thinking I will just keep to posting and reading general section, then I will not be posting in the wrong section.

Easy solution


and on 1/1/11 we agreed...

stellar day!



It's still 12/31/10 actually.




Andrei,
2 minutes to go, get off the line & celebrate.

Happy New Year!
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Re: We need some new mods, any volunteers?
Reply #126 - Dec 12th, 2010, 4:32pm   muso wrote on Dec 12th, 2010, 2:33pm:


It seems that the very structure of the boards lends itself to some of the reason (in fact, quite a bit), for the attention of moderators.

If the boards were re-organised along the following lines, then it would "lessen the number of posts that need to be moved", which seems to be one of the prevalent issues -
General Board - including Chat sub-heading
Global Thinking Board - to include all things Global
Political Board - All things relevant to Australian Politics, including sub-headings for Sustainability Party, Liberal Democratic Party and Economics (Federal & State)
Fedback Board - including Technically Speaking sub-heading
Spirituallity, Religion Board - including Islam sub-heading
Health & Wellbeing Board - including sub-headings for Relationships, Secret Womens Business & Multiculturalism & Race, Philosophy and Drugs
Environment Board - including Hunting & Fishing sub-heading
Finance & Shares Board - including sub-headings for Finance News & Stocks & Shares Talk
Other Board - including sub-headings for Fringe, Transport, Extremism

A revamp in the above line may immediately cut out some of the need for "threads & posts" being moved, although frankly, I don't think "moving threads" achieves a great deal, anyway.

The main bugbear with internet boards (everywhere), are mainly via the attitudes of people, who are intolerant that everyone has differring perceptions of the same set of facts and that will remain.

The 'trick" being to allow discussion, but bring down the curtain on abuse!

Btw, you are also correct about these boards & democracy!


So the general board would be for apolitical stuff?
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Reply #126 - Dec 12th, 2010, 4:32pm   muso wrote on Dec 12th, 2010, 2:33pm:


It seems that the very structure of the boards lends itself to some of the reason (in fact, quite a bit), for the attention of moderators.

If the boards were re-organised along the following lines, then it would "lessen the number of posts that need to be moved", which seems to be one of the prevalent issues -
General Board - including Chat sub-heading
Global Thinking Board - to include all things Global
Political Board - All things relevant to Australian Politics, including sub-headings for Sustainability Party, Liberal Democratic Party and Economics (Federal & State)
Fedback Board - including Technically Speaking sub-heading
Spirituallity, Religion Board - including Islam sub-heading
Health & Wellbeing Board - including sub-headings for Relationships, Secret Womens Business & Multiculturalism & Race, Philosophy and Drugs
Environment Board - including Hunting & Fishing sub-heading
Finance & Shares Board - including sub-headings for Finance News & Stocks & Shares Talk
Other Board - including sub-headings for Fringe, Transport, Extremism

A revamp in the above line may immediately cut out some of the need for "threads & posts" being moved, although frankly, I don't think "moving threads" achieves a great deal, anyway.

The main bugbear with internet boards (everywhere), are mainly via the attitudes of people, who are intolerant that everyone has differring perceptions of the same set of facts and that will remain.

The 'trick" being to allow discussion, but bring down the curtain on abuse!

Btw, you are also correct about these boards & democracy!


So the general board would be for apolitical stuff?


People will post things here, there and everywhere, I don't see any great reason for posting Political related issues in General or anywhere else, after all this is the OZPOLITICS board.

However, I would think most Political posters would still post the major of their posts on the Politics board.

The main issues are -
1) It really isn't the end of the world, if a few posts are not in the right area, according to moderators.
2) Offensive posts & posters are one of the big reasons that led to the demise of the Yahoo Boards and that is where the effort should go. I that means a few posts go to what you or I think is the wrong area, then so be it!

As I said earlier, the 'trick" is to allow a diversified discussion, but bring down the curtain on abuse!

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Reply #31 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 11:01pm
 
For someone who thinks it doesn;t matter and people will post wherever they want anyway, you seem to have put a lot of thought into redesigning the forum.

You want a board for general politcal debate - that is the general board.

You want a board for apolitical stuff - that is the chat board.

I want a separate board for the partisan crap - that is the politicans suck board.

Everyone is happy.
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Reply #32 - Jan 3rd, 2011 at 1:49am
 
This website is crap.......................bring back Yahoo Politics Board, at least Yahoo was easy to read instead of wading through half a page to get to someone's reply.

And there are far too many whingers on here bleating that 'certain post/s' have already been discussed before.  So what?  Not everyone who posts on here sits here day and night to follow all the threads.  I for one will not search through pages and pages to see if some other person (usually a Leftie) has already posted about a topic................!!!!

It seems as if Freediver moves things around when the topic is not to his 'leftist' taste..................now wait for it, this post will either be deleted or shifted into never never land
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Reply #33 - Jan 3rd, 2011 at 11:25am
 
andy07 wrote on Jan 3rd, 2011 at 1:49am:
This website is crap.......................bring back Yahoo Politics Board, at least Yahoo was easy to read instead of wading through half a page to get to someone's reply.

And there are far too many whingers on here bleating that 'certain post/s' have already been discussed before.  So what?  Not everyone who posts on here sits here day and night to follow all the threads.  I for one will not search through pages and pages to see if some other person (usually a Leftie) has already posted about a topic................!!!!

It seems as if Freediver moves things around when the topic is not to his 'leftist' taste..................now wait for it, this post will either be deleted or shifted into never never land

Roll Eyes Speaking of whingers, you are free to leave when ever you like.
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