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Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:10pm

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Australia's $45m climate change cheque
Updated: 08:47, Thursday December 9, 2010

Australia will give Indonesia $45 million to tackle climate change, the federal government says.
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=549619&vId=

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Australia will spend $500m to upgrade Indonesian schools
Tom Allard in Jakarta. November 3, 2010

Australia will spend $500 million building 2000 schools in Indonesia in an effort to improve the prospects of Indonesia’s youth and moderate the influence of the country's religious schools.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TNO6J4L40G294CCOT

Juxtapose the above stories and the message of largesse they convey with the story below and the meanness conveyed in the message to Australians.

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Flood victims to get $1m federal funding
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• December 29, 2010 5:02PM

THE federal government will match Queensland's $1 million donation to a fund to help victims of the floods devastating the state.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/flood-victims-to-get-1m-federal-funding/story-e6freuyi-1225978118407

Should Queenslanders declare themselves Indonesians or at the very least ask for a grant to build Islamic schools?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens? Reply #1 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:12pm why not? May as well make Melbourne people Chinese as well. They had a Chinaman who couldnt speak Engriiish as Mayor and you walk around some of the suburbs and I think I am in Saigon.
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens? Reply #2 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:19pm Yes, the federal government were very generous in their assistance to Queenslanders who lost everything in the floods weren't they. Just a real pity we aren't classed as Indonesians. Unbelievable.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens? Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:39pm Regional Queensland is never a high priority with any government. We shouldn't expect much and we won't be disappointed.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens? Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 3:15pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:39pm: Regional Queensland is never a high priority with any government. We shouldn't expect much and we won't be disappointed. well you wanted and delivered ALP into govt. suck it up.
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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 4:12pm

salad in wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:10pm:

Quote:

Australia's $45m climate change cheque
Updated: 08:47, Thursday December 9, 2010

Australia will give Indonesia $45 million to tackle climate change, the federal government says.
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=549619&vId=

Quote:

Australia will spend $500m to upgrade Indonesian schools
Tom Allard in Jakarta. November 3, 2010

Australia will spend $500 million building 2000 schools in Indonesia in an effort to improve the prospects of Indonesia’s youth and moderate the influence of the country's religious schools.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/australia/TNO6J4L40G294CCOT

Juxtapose the above stories and the message of largesse they convey with the story below and the meanness conveyed in the message to Australians.

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Flood victims to get $1m federal funding
• From: AAP
• December 29, 2010 5:02PM

THE federal government will match Queensland's $1 million donation to a fund to help victims of the floods devastating the state.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/flood-victims-to-get-1m-federal-funding/story-e6freuyi-1225978118407

Should Queenslanders declare themselves Indonesians or at the very least ask for a grant to build Islamic schools?

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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 4:17pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:12pm:

why not?

May as well make Melbourne people Chinese as well.

They had a Chinaman who couldnt speak Engriiish as Mayor and you walk around some of the suburbs and I think I am in Saigon.

You learn something everyday on here. I never knew that Saigon was in China.

Anyway stupid it is known as Ho Chi Minh City and has been for about the last 35 years

Didn't they teach you that at uni?

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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 6:35pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:19pm:

Yes, the federal government were very generous in their assistance to Queenslanders who lost everything in the floods weren't they.
Just a real pity we aren't classed as Indonesians.
Unbelievable.

Don't you think that you are being just a tad premature to score political points on this issue?
The flood-waters are still rising in many areas and the damage is yet to be assessed. In many cases the damage is still yet to happen.
I think you will find that once the flooding subsides and the damage is known that there will be a lot more government assistance.

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Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2010 at 6:53pm

Well I am all for governments using public money to benefit all aussies, but I guess we should demand that they do a Cost Benefit Analysis before handing out our money. Wink

Aside from the jibe at the obvious hypocrisy of our extremist loons, I know that all aussies will rally around and support those who are suffering now, because as aussies it is just what we do, and we all send our best wishes and hopes for the safety and well being of all the folk effected by, and struggling through the severe queensland floods.

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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #9 - Jan 1^st, 2011 at 7:22am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 3:15pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:39pm:

Regional Queensland is never a high priority with any government. We shouldn't expect much and we won't be disappointed.

well you wanted and delivered ALP into govt. suck it up.

meaning ANY government.

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Reply #10 - Jan 1^st, 2011 at 7:48am

mozzaok wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 6:53pm:

Well I am all for governments using public money to benefit all aussies, but I guess we should demand that they do a Cost Benefit Analysis before handing out our money. Wink

Aside from the jibe at the obvious hypocrisy of our extremist loons, I know that all aussies will rally around and support those who are suffering now, because as aussies it is just what we do, and we all send our best wishes and hopes for the safety and well being of all the folk effected by, and struggling through the severe queensland floods.

you are the one sounding like an extremist loon. for u it seems to be all or nothing. a CBA for every minor govt spend - eg on a pencil or NO CBA at all - even for a $43B project.

grow up.

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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #11 - Jan 1^st, 2011 at 7:52am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 31^st, 2010 at 2:39pm:

Regional Queensland is never a high priority with any government. We shouldn't expect much and we won't be disappointed.

Nothing could be further from the truth, the Nats were very good at returning some of the profits to the regions. The ALP has, as usual, been a train wreck. These useless "people" sent the State broke during record boom times, while infastructure has slid backwards through neglect, incompetance, and corruption.

I have serious doubts that the left will ever evolve to the point where they comprehend that leadership requires more than a big mouth, safety glasses, a hard hat, and a vagina.

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Re: Should Queenslanders become Indonesian citizens?
Reply #13 - Jan 1^st, 2011 at 9:30am

What has been said and done to this point is in line with expectations.

In a similar position Mr Howard gave people who lost their homes or were injured a $1,000 and $400 for children.

This was generous but would not have come to $1,000,000 as the first responce. Their is also a commitment to assist with the rebuild and with other relief funds already available in standard disaster relief situations.

This is not an area I think should be used for dishonest political point scoring, the previous Liberals did well for people in disaster situations and this government is likely to do the same.

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Reply #14 - Jan 1^st, 2011 at 9:40am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 9:30am:

What has been said and done to this point is in line with expectations.

In a similar position Mr Howard gave people who lost their homes or were injured a $1,000 and $400 for children.

This was generous but would not have come to $1,000,000 as the first responce. Their is also a commitment to assist with the rebuild and with other relief funds already available in standard disaster relief situations.

This is not an area I think should be used for dishonest political point scoring, the previous Liberals did well for people in disaster situations and this government is likely to do the same.

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