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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #240 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:09pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 2:06pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 11:15am:
John S wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:46am:
Longy you are ravering on about what you can do on the internet today.

What will you want to do in 5, 10 or 15 years time.

You be watching TV by the internet soon, as a matter of fact you can do it now. Have you got the Telstra T box. You need ADSL2+ to have and not everyone in the country has ADSL2+.

I bet in about 15 years time you won't store anything on your computer, it will all be with your ISP. The only thing you have on your computer is the operating system and and programs you download.

Think outside the box and think what the future will bring and you see we will need the NBN.


spending $43B of my money so that you can watch TV doesnt sound like a killer need for taxpayer money. thats the point. and in a proper CBA you put internet TV in the benefits and then try and justofy it. can you?


Longweekend, I take you as a smart person.  Pls don't repeat an argument.

I find I am very much a progressive thinker, but at times I can see how conservatism is better.  Knowing how much technology has just emerged and as a result changed our lives I don't understand AT ALL how someone can stay conservative about improving our infrastructure, ensuring the continuation of the growth. It isn't about internet TV, and I've already expressed this to you - something you chose to ignore.  




actually NO ONE has been able to come up with ANY usee for the NBN that you cant already do. and if internet TV is the only thing then lets at least say we are putting in place an INTERNET TV NETWORK and not some silly NBN.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #241 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:17pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:05pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?


If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with.


well tell us how the NBN will help wireless networks then? from my understanding the NBN is totally 100% WIRED expect for a few ultra remote locations. So if your only interest is in wireless internet and you want mobility then the NBN is of no use at all.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #242 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:20pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:05pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?


If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with.


well tell us how the NBN will help wireless networks then? from my understanding the NBN is totally 100% WIRED expect for a few ultra remote locations. So if your only interest is in wireless internet and you want mobility then the NBN is of no use at all.




The NBN, yet another BIG WHITE ELEPHANT, brought to you by your Federal ALP, moving forward together into useless debts!
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #243 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:21pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 5:28pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:59am:
In 5, 10 or 15 years time the Julia Gillard NBN will be outof date.
What will you be using then?
I guess like everyone else we will all use what the free market & capitalism will determine.





Optic fibre has been the PREMIUM in telecommunications and data transfer since the late 1960's - and it REMAINS the PREMIUM, despite some 40 plus years of research to improve on it

There are NO indications from the world of physics that this situation will change in the NEXT 40 plus years










And they said the same thing about video tapes.
And hey here we are now with DVDs.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #244 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:23pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 5:02pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:46pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?




Well the $34 billion includes the additional 100 or so 20-metre extension leads required that will be delivered to all households who connect!




What a load of CRAP



I use mine up to 50m from the house, on a satellite connection
I have done so on ADSL

The NBN will be no different, in that respect


My GOD, there's some deliberately spread GARBAGE out there






Humour is not your friend I see.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #245 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:26pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 5:02pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:46pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?




Well the $34 billion includes the additional 100 or so 20-metre extension leads required that will be delivered to all households who connect!




What a load of CRAP



I use mine up to 50m from the house, on a satellite connection
I have done so on ADSL

The NBN will be no different, in that respect


My GOD, there's some deliberately spread GARBAGE out there




a whole 50m????  how impressive. now try taking it to the next state an see how well it works! we are talking abotu WIRELESS MOBILE BROADBAND.

be a good girl and stay on topic, huh?
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #246 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:28pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 5:28pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:59am:
In 5, 10 or 15 years time the Julia Gillard NBN will be outof date.
What will you be using then?
I guess like everyone else we will all use what the free market & capitalism will determine.





Optic fibre has been the PREMIUM in telecommunications and data transfer since the late 1960's - and it REMAINS the PREMIUM, despite some 40 plus years of research to improve on it

There are NO indications from the world of physics that this situation will change in the NEXT 40 plus years








wow. naive AND uninfomed!!!  40 years ago we knew very little about the subatomic level. now we know odd particles like neutrinos which if we can detect and use as information carriers could revolutionise comms. u dont know much about science it appears. you are quite the flat-earth luddite.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #247 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:28pm
 
If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with."



Ok dumbo tell me how the NBN will allow me to use my laptop sitting in a car park to book tickets to a show when they go on sale at 9AM.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #248 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:33pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
John S wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 9:07am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:59am:
John S wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:46am:
Longy you are ravering on about what you can do on the internet today.

What will you want to do in 5, 10 or 15 years time.

You be watching TV by the internet soon, as a matter of fact you can do it now. Have you got the Telstra T box. You need ADSL2+ to have and not everyone in the country has ADSL2+.

I bet in about 15 years time you won't store anything on your computer, it will all be with your ISP. The only thing you have on your computer is the operating system and and programs you download.

Think outside the box and think what the future will bring and you see we will need the NBN.




In 5, 10 or 15 years time the Julia Gillard NBN will be outof date.
What will you be using then?
I guess like everyone else we will all use what the free market & capitalism will determine.


Do you think in 5, 10 or 15 years time that the patch up internet that the liberals want to give us will be better.



What "patch up internet system"?
You don't know what they are offering do you.





They DON'T know, THEMSELVES









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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #249 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:35pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:33pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:25pm:
John S wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 9:07am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:59am:
John S wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 8:46am:
Longy you are ravering on about what you can do on the internet today.

What will you want to do in 5, 10 or 15 years time.

You be watching TV by the internet soon, as a matter of fact you can do it now. Have you got the Telstra T box. You need ADSL2+ to have and not everyone in the country has ADSL2+.

I bet in about 15 years time you won't store anything on your computer, it will all be with your ISP. The only thing you have on your computer is the operating system and and programs you download.

Think outside the box and think what the future will bring and you see we will need the NBN.




In 5, 10 or 15 years time the Julia Gillard NBN will be outof date.
What will you be using then?
I guess like everyone else we will all use what the free market & capitalism will determine.


Do you think in 5, 10 or 15 years time that the patch up internet that the liberals want to give us will be better.



What "patch up internet system"?
You don't know what they are offering do you.





They DON'T know, THEMSELVES













So you don't know then.
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #250 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:05pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?


If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with.


well tell us how the NBN will help wireless networks then? from my understanding the NBN is totally 100% WIRED expect for a few ultra remote locations. So if your only interest is in wireless internet and you want mobility then the NBN is of no use at all.




Correct

But do you think mobile phones eliminated the need for landlines ?




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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #251 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:44pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:05pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?


If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with.


well tell us how the NBN will help wireless networks then? from my understanding the NBN is totally 100% WIRED expect for a few ultra remote locations. So if your only interest is in wireless internet and you want mobility then the NBN is of no use at all.




Correct

But do you think mobile phones eliminated the need for landlines ?






u seem to be oblivious to the fact that landline use is plummeting and hoems without landlines are very commonplace. in the next 10 years it is expected that most people wont use landlines much as mobiles are easier and almost as cheap. why do u expect internet to be any different?
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #252 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:50pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 6:05pm:
whatsforme wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
The NBN will not allow me to take my lap top out of the house so whats the use?


If you are actually stupid enough to believe that, dump the laptop and go back to using crayons.
You know those big ones they make for toddlers developing their fine motor skills, the type you could use to write all you know about this subject on the back of a postage stamp with.


well tell us how the NBN will help wireless networks then? from my understanding the NBN is totally 100% WIRED expect for a few ultra remote locations. So if your only interest is in wireless internet and you want mobility then the NBN is of no use at all.




Correct

But do you think mobile phones eliminated the need for landlines ?








Would you have thought that 5 years ago?

Why don't you ask that in 5 years time?

Oh and do you notice the abundance of public landline phones now compared with 5 years ago?
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Reply #253 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 10:19pm
 
And it
STILL
comes down to ...




 mozzaok wrote on Dec 30th, 2010 at 9:55am:
I think that those who oppose it should at least be upfront and admit that their attitude is "bugger the bush", and openly announce their opposition to all government subsidised services, including health, and education, and promote their user pays philosophy for every aspect of society, because that appears to be the only argument they uniformly support.







Not to mention that it's a LABOR initiative - and must be destroyed, on that criteria alone
Turnbull's got a BITCH of a job - given the task of "tearing it down" in the party name - given the "loyal party man" he is

And the ONLY member of the Parliamentary Liberal Party who has a CLUE on the topic - and aware of the potential and need of a 21st century broadband network

The job must be more soul destroying than that of Hockey's (another "loyal party man") when given the task of selling the DOG that was WorkChoices



But, fear not ...

It WILL proceed
It IS proceeding



And all the misinformation, whinging and tantrums from the "right" ...

... will NOT stop it
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Re: Will you connect to the NBN?
Reply #254 - Dec 30th, 2010 at 10:40pm
 
Why on earth support something that does not have a financial payback?

PS Buzz, how do you think this is going to be paid for?

Taxes?

Oh yeah, that'd be other people than you eh?

Why is it people who pay nothing in to running the country, think they have a right to demand how other people's money is spent?

Fact is -

If something does not pay back financially it's outlay, then it should not go ahead.
That is my sole view on it.
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